I don't like soccer.

When did I ever say soccer takes more talent, you nincompoop? I was saying the opposite about ALL sports, even NASCAR, which takes more driving skills, better reaction time and extreme physical condition that you can even start to comprehend. What I WAS saying is that soccer takes enormous amount of talent and skill while you were saying it's a track meet because all it involves is running.

Zack did and you jumped on the bandwagon talking crap to me when I was arguing with him that they didn't. Im saying its a track meet, you idiot, because all they do is run and kick the F***ING ball. What else do they do? Nothing. Their sole purpose in the game is to run to the ball and kick it. They don't have to catch. They don't have to throw. Its not difficult to kick a freakin ball. Thats why when youre 3 they start you out with KICKBALL. Its essentially soccer with baseball rules. Kids aren't good enough to hit a small ball so they make it easier for them.

So if your argument is, professional soccer players are better at kicking the ball then I would suspect that you are right. Talented at kicking the ball. Sure. Have a lot of stamina. Most definately. Extremely talented athletes? Not so much.

Of course it's easy to kick a ball, just like it's easy to throw a baseball or a rock. Kicking it with skill requires a lot more than catching a f***ing football OR anything for that matter, though. Controlling the ball on the run takes a lot more skill than running with a football in your hands. Receiving a cross and not letting the ball bounce off you BUT controlling it instead takes a lot more skill than running into a running back to bring him down. Am I saying that pro football players are not freaks of nature? No, because they most definitely are. But you saying "ALL IT TAKES IS RUNNING AND KICKING THE BALL" when you talk about soccer, makes you sound quite reeruned to be honest with you.

And comapring kick ball to soccer is just... I'm mean serioulsy, we're done.

Youre joking right? They drive in a freakin circle. If there is an accident they do caution laps. Drive in Southern California. It may not be as fast but you need quick reaction times to avoid the millions of idiots on the road who shouldn't even have their license. If you were to say INDY car or Formula one. I would have agreed with you. But NASCAR? ROFL

Do you really want to go into this? Formula 1 drivers are the most skilled drivers in the world, yes. But saying NASCAR takes no skill is utterly stupid. Formula 1 never reaches the speeds of NASCAR, I want to see you take any NASCAR turn at 195mph, lol. Actually, scratch that, you're stupid, but I don't wish death upon you.

Youre an idiot of epic proportion. Soccer may have been hard for you. But most naturally talented people who play multiple sports would argue with you. I have played every sport. Most of them in a competitive league. Others recreationally and find soccer not only boring. But not that difficult. Hitting a ball 3 inches or so in diameter coming at you at 100 mph=To kicking a ball thats a foot in diameter IYO? Youre a fucktard

Formula 1 never reaches the speeds of NASCAR. Nascar averages 160 around those turns you are talking about and get up to 195 on the straightaways. Formula 1 is routinely over 200 mph on street courses. Youre so stupid youre probably doing a guy and believing him when he tells you its not ghey.

I just think you have a misconception of what's considered being "good" at soccer. But yeah, I agree, it's a lot harder to hit 95mph ball with a bat than anything in soccer, no argument there. But I was talking more about football to you, though.

What I am gathering from you is that anything you can't do, or have trouble doing, other people that do it are talented. I don't believe that to be the case. I can't eat 40 hot dogs in one sitting. But I don't believe the person who can, does so because of talent. In NASCAR they drive fast, but they do so in a circle. No more talent involved then what anyone of us have. Just most of us don't have the money to put together a pit crew and expensive car and do it. Or the desire to do so.

Yes, they do. And they out-turn and out-brake them, too.

I just watched the Japanese Gran Prix on SPEED a few weeks ago and they hit something like 310kph on that straight, which is what, something like 190mph? The non-hairpin turns were like around 140-180kph. Obviously F1 cars are much faster and designed specifically for turning, but NASCAR is constantly faster - the drivers don't experience as many G's, but they ARE always going crazy fast and then there are the walls they have to deal with...

Haha, I can probably do some things with a soccer ball you didn't think were possible, but I'm by no means gifted - otherwise I'd be playing pro soccer, wouldn't I?

Oh and why don't you grab a soccer ball and try to do this:

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You probably think that's easy to do, don't you? ROFL

Yes, they go around is ovals really quickly. F1 cars are capable of well over 200mph, but most tracks don't permit it.

And, if you want to see walls, please take a peek at the Monaco GP:

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