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Mecca 10-26-2009 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6210640)
And it becomes personal.

That's all he can do at this point, his football takes suck.

Marcellus 10-26-2009 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6210643)
:spock:

The average person works till they are 65 years old an NFL players career ends in his 30's waiting on a 27 year old is a losing proposition.

This is really hard to understand I know.

How many QB's have had good careers take off later in their careers?

Gannon, Steve Young, Trent Green, Matt Hasselback......

Life does not end at 27.

Marcellus 10-26-2009 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6210644)
That's all he can do at this point, his football takes suck.

And yours is awesome. You repeat the same shit over and over.

DaneMcCloud 10-26-2009 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 6210652)
How many QB's have had good careers take off later in their careers?

Gannon, Steve Young, Trent Green, Matt Hasselback......

Life does not end at 27.

This is true.

But Gannon,and Green both had extensive game time before being handed the keys to the franchise.

Young was handed the keys to two different franchises, one in the USFL and the Bucs (who couldn't beat a USFL team at the time).

Hasselbeck is the only exception on your list.

Marcellus 10-26-2009 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6210681)
This is true.

But Gannon,and Green bot had extensive game time before being handed the keys to the franchise.

Young was handed the keys to two different franchises, one in the USFL and the Bucs (who couldn't beat a USFL team at the time).

Hasselbeck is the only exception on your list.

Green had 15 starts before being handed a big contract and then started 8 games after that in Stl before coming to KC. You are Wrong once again.

Gannon had 36 starts in 10 years prior to starting 10 games for KC in 98'.
Hardly extensive career game time and he was over 30 before breaking out.
Wrong again.

Mecca 10-26-2009 08:42 PM

I bet all of them were good enough to start in college.

Marcellus 10-26-2009 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6210706)
I bet all of them were good enough to start in college.

Had Cassel not gone to USC when he did he would have started there or somewhere else. He had 2 Heisman Trophy winners ahead of him.

I bet he still has a better career than Lienart.

Gannon - University of ****ing Delaware

Mecca 10-26-2009 08:51 PM

Be honest going into that year after Palmer, Cassel was the higher rated recruit than Leinart he was the favorite and he got beat out.

Marcellus 10-26-2009 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6210731)
Be honest going into that year after Palmer, Cassel was the higher rated recruit than Leinart he was the favorite and he got beat out.

So you are saying he couldn't have started for another D1 school? That's nonsense.

You stated the other QB's I mentioned were good enough to start at their schools.

I am just saying had Cassel wanted to go to BYU or Delaware State, or something comparable at the time he could have started. He decided to stay where he signed and compete.

Do you not believe that?

I don't doubt his not getting to start in college set back his career but to say he sucked so bad in college he couldn't start is BS considering where he was at the time.

alanm 10-26-2009 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave (Post 6210378)
Possibly. I'd save judgment for when this team has some talent.

I know that this has probably been mentioned once or twice but he doesn't seem to be able to have the time for routes longer than 5 yrd outs or quick hitches or screens.

chiefzilla1501 10-26-2009 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6210706)
I bet all of them were good enough to start in college.

C'mon dude.

The Patriots, whether it was Pioli or Bellichick, decided that Cassel was good enough to be the go-to guy if Brady ever got injured. They believed that for 5 years. During that time, they rotated several QBs and many of them were cut within months or one year.

Pioli and Bellichick picked Matt Cassel to be on their roster over hundreds of QBs who started in college.

Are you really going to try to make the argument that Bellichick has no idea how to evaluate a QB?

Mecca 10-26-2009 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6210766)
C'mon dude.

The Patriots, whether it was Pioli or Bellichick, decided that Cassel was good enough to be the go-to guy if Brady ever got injured. They believed that for 5 years. During that time, they rotated several QBs and many of them were cut within months or one year.

Pioli and Bellichick picked Matt Cassel to be on their roster over hundreds of QBs who started in college.

Are you really going to try to make the argument that Bellichick has no idea how to evaluate a QB?

Outside if tripping into Brady he doesn't have a good QB history, it would be like saying Tony Dungy has a good QB history.

chiefzilla1501 10-26-2009 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6210632)
This is what we get for making fun of Russell I guess, we get our own skinny white version.

Russell hasn't improved his accuracy because he doesn't put the work in and he's too lazy to work with receivers. Let's not pretend that they're the same guy.

Cassel's got a lot to work on. But he also has a stellar work ethic. What bothers me most is that after every bad play, there should be a coach sitting down with him telling him what he did wrong. It's pretty amazing that Haley thought it was okay to not give the guy a QBs coach to work with.

Bunit 10-26-2009 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 6210486)
Maybe Bowe has an agreement with Cassel. Cassel has to throw bad passes, so that Bowe will look so good whenever he's able to catch one. When he does throw him a good pass, it surprises him so much that he drops it. :shrug:

Yeah, like the ****ing Redskins game I was at where Bowe was running a crossing route on third down.

Cassel threw the ball, hit him right in his hands and he dropped it. Know what happened the next series?

Oh you don't. I'll tell you. Cassel threw a ball that actually went through Bowe's hands and hit him right between the fucking 8 and 2.

chiefzilla1501 10-26-2009 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6210772)
Outside if tripping into Brady he doesn't have a good QB history, it would be like saying Tony Dungy has a good QB history.

The point is that Bellichick has cut dozens of QBs after only one season. Many of them sooner than that. And that includes Kevin O'Connell, a pretty high pick.

I'm not saying he's flawless. But he's a well-respected evaluator of talent and he obviously thought Cassel was worth keeping around for 5 years.


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