Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 6224993)

DT's don't come out the gate and take over the world their rookie year like a DE can.

I believe Dorsey can become a great 3-4 DE but the problem is that you drafted him and paid him to be a Warren Sapp and then told him to go be Kimo Von Oelhoffen.

It's like signing Randy Moss for Randy Moss money and then asking him to play TE.

"Well, you're still catching passes, right?..."

Nein...

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6225038)

Some people move the goal posts.

You move the whole ****ing field.

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6225052)

how so?

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6225059)

You claim to make points that you never make.

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6225051)

Except for the fact that the dorsey to sapp comparisons are/were completely baseless and stupid.

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 6225078)

Nah'.

Dorsey should have come out the gate healing the sick and forcing sacks with the his hateful gaze alone...

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6225068)

I guess I dont follow

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6225089)

It's an overall general observation, but here specifically, you didn't make the point that you thought Dorsey didn't play well, and didn't make a case as to why, nor did you suggest that he would be improved in his second season.

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6225080)

With a "gleam." There's a gleam men.............

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6224520)

Hardly. You were expecting the Chiefs to go what this year? 9-7? 8-8? Pipe dreams. It's called living in reality rather than expecting pipe dreams.

Second yes, it does say a lot about the talent evaluation that had been going on here. This roster will be turned over until both Pioli and Haley feel like they have the right guys in place. If people want to continue to make fun of the "right 53" phrase go ahead, but it's the same mantra that Parcells and Belichick chant as well. And right now I don't think we have more than a handful of the "right 53" in place. So it's very possible that next season that the Chiefs could struggle again. If the offensive line gets fixed this next offseason we could take a big jump in competitiveness. But we also need linebackers, a safety or possibly two, a true nose tackle, a better blocking fullback, and possibly two more running backs.

this team is a long way from competing and anyone who expected a record even nearing .500 this year spent too much time with their head in a paint can.

Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 6225552)

The draft was a failure. After 7 games. You are football expert geniuses.
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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 6225325)

I picked the Chiefs to win 3 games this year dumbass. I had about as low of expectations as anyone. Nice guess on that.

Pioli created the "Right 53" mantra. The fans didn't. And the fans have every right to hold the GM to what he says. It's pretty sad that you justify the GM not being a man of his word. You're right though, we do need LBs, safeties, a NT, etc. The thing you're neglecting is that they had opportunities to fill some of those roles already, and for whatever reason they neglected a good portion of that. The fact that they only have a handful of the "Right 53" in place at this point is evidence that they've failed in player evaluation. There's no other way around it.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6225557)

I'd like for you to detail how and in what ways the 2009 draft was a success.