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bigbucks24 12-15-2009 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6350263)
And 7-2 offsuit will win you a hand occasionally.

There are two spread QB's in the history of the league that have been successful. The odds are overwhelmingly against a spread QB succeeding.
Well, there is Kyle Orton too.....wait....you win.

OnTheWarpath15 12-15-2009 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by baitism (Post 6350274)
He could easily play on the other side of the 3-4 from Hali, and be a lot better at it.
Hold on.

You really think it's a good idea to spend three consecutive Top 5 picks - and over $100M - on guys that play a comlementary position?

Mr. Laz 12-15-2009 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bigbucks24 (Post 6350250)
You know that Drew Brees was a spread QB, right?
you know that Brady is basically a spread QB

OnTheWarpath15 12-15-2009 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6350312)
you know that Brady is basically a spread QB
Brady played in the spread at Michigan?

bigbucks24 12-15-2009 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6350312)
you know that Brady is basically a spread QB
So New England ran the spread last year? So basically what you are saying is that the spread offense inflates the stats and possibly the value of a QB. And their value can't be accurately evaluated based on their time in the spread (like last year)? If that is true, no one in their right mind would ever trade a 2nd round pick for a spread QB and give him $61MM. That would be insane.

Mr. Laz 12-15-2009 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6350317)
Brady played in the spread at Michigan?
Brady is enjoying most of his Hall of fame success in the pros running a spread.

Mr. Laz 12-15-2009 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by bigbucks24 (Post 6350345)
So New England ran the spread last year? So basically what you are saying is that the spread offense inflates the stats and possibly the value of a QB. And their value can't be accurately evaluated based on their time in the spread (like last year)? If that is true, no one in their right mind would ever trade a 2nd round pick for a spread QB and give him $61MM. That would be insane.
well ... yes

or you better be prepared to run the same system he enjoyed the success in so that you get your money's worth.

OnTheWarpath15 12-15-2009 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6350350)
Brady is enjoying most of his Hall of fame success in the pros running a spread.
And the conversation you felt compelled to chime in on was referring to DRAFTING a spread QB - and understanding how they are at a disadvantage making the adjustment into the pros.

Mr. Laz 12-15-2009 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6350361)
And the conversation you felt compelled to chime in on was referring to DRAFTING a spread QB - and understanding how they are at a disadvantage making the adjustment into the pros.
actually i responded to BigBucks ... not you.

bigbucks24 12-15-2009 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6350357)
well ... yes

or you better be prepared to run the same system he enjoyed the success in so that you get your money's worth.
So it would be even more insane (is there such a phrase?) to trade for a spread QB, pay him $61MM and then ask him to work out of a pro style offense?

baitism 12-15-2009 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6350287)
Hold on.

You really think it's a good idea to spend three consecutive Top 5 picks - and over $100M - on guys that play a comlementary position?
When you have as many holes as the Chiefs you draft BPA. For once it could be in a position that we need (unlike our reaches the last two seasons).

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-15-2009 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by bigbucks24 (Post 6350388)
So it would be even more insane (is there such a phrase?) to trade for a spread QB, pay him $61MM and then ask him to work out of a pro style offense?
Yes. That's why Gimpy works out the shotgun.

OnTheWarpath15 12-15-2009 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by baitism (Post 6350437)
When you have as many holes as the Chiefs you draft BPA. For once it could be in a position that we need (unlike our reaches the last two seasons).
:facepalm:

Mr. Laz 12-15-2009 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bigbucks24 (Post 6350388)
So it would be even more insane (is there such a phrase?) to trade for a spread QB, pay him $61MM and then ask him to work out of a pro style offense?
yes ... at the least considered very reckless.

Be it the draft or free agency, watching a player perform in one system and then expecting him to succeed in another is risky at best.

The Bad Guy 12-15-2009 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by baitism (Post 6350437)
When you have as many holes as the Chiefs you draft BPA. For once it could be in a position that we need (unlike our reaches the last two seasons).
Thanks Matt Millen.


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