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Coogs 12-21-2009 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6367226)
Wow, you REALLY don't get it, do you?

First off, Barry Richardson is a second year player. He started 40 games at Clemson at left tackle. The Chiefs moved him to right tackle. He has IDEAL SIZE for a right tackle at 6'6, 325 pounds. I don't give a FLYING **** if he wasn't the the "best" right tackle when training camp broke. He has the most UPSIDE and clearly the most potential out of all the broke-dick ****S they stuck out there. The Chiefs weren't going ANYWHERE this season, which is why you put your best and youngest players on the field and let them GROW TOGETHER.

Instead, it took Haley 14 WEEKS to put the best offensive line on the field. That's ABSURD.

As to Bradley, SO ****ING WHAT? He dropped some passes. Big ****ing DEAL. The guy has been used so sparingly, what did you expect? He is the second most talented receiver on the Chiefs squad. To SIT him for 10 weeks for not getting a first down is, once again, ABSURD. The guy SHOULD HAVE BEEN on the field each and every week. Why? Because his presence gives the Chiefs the BEST CHANCE TO WIN. Regardless of drops.

:clap:

OnTheWarpath15 12-21-2009 01:11 PM

Cam Cameron, 2008. One year, 1-15. Fired.

Lane Kiffin, 2007. One year, 4-12. Fired.

Art Shell, 2006. One year, 2-14. Fired.

Marty Schottenheimer, 2001. One year, 8-8. Fired.

Eric Mangini, 2009. One year, 3-11. Very likely to be fired.


It's been done before, and I'd have no problem if it happened to Haley.

OnTheWarpath15 12-21-2009 01:14 PM

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This is just one game but a great example of how devoid of talent teams like Chiefs, Rams and Lions are. Coaching just isn't that important with that talent.
Is the dumbest post contest still going on?

Coaching is MORE important when you have this level of talent.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-21-2009 01:16 PM

This team doesn't need Vince Lombardi. It needs someone with ****ing common sense, and no one in this organization seems to have any.

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-21-2009 01:20 PM

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This is just one game but a great example of how devoid of talent teams like Chiefs, Rams and Lions are. Coaching just isn't that important with that talent.
Either I missed this in the read through, or my brain has developed the power to block out stupid shit like this while perusing the Planet.

RedThat 12-21-2009 01:28 PM

No use in stressing about it. Seriously. Whether you want the guy fired or not, we have no control over the situation. All we can do is hope for the best.

We can judge all we want, but one can differentiate between seeing things from a fans perspective compared to either a coaches or players perspective. These guys are in the thick of things, not us.

I don't know what goes on back there but I could only imagine that being a rookie head coach is no different then a newly hired employee on a job with no experience. If you have no experience you're gonna make your share of mistakes. It's inevitable. Obviously there are going to come times when you will not know what you are doing, THAT happens. It's all part of a learning process. He is trying to learn what its like to be a head coach. THATS ONE THING ALL TOGETHER!

Its all part of growth. Growing comes with mistakes. If you don't believe in that, then I don't know what to tell you. And I could only imagine how hard it is to be a head coach alone, in addition, you have a crappy roster to deal with. Sure, Todd Haley has made mistakes, a whole ton of them. But it seems like people want him crucified for it. Relax, he is a rookie. What do you expect? Bill Belicheck, Parcells. Complaining about not playing certain players is way out of our control. Plus the roster is devoid of talent as it is. I don't see any reason to complain about it. Our main focus should be on getting players, and not on the coaches. We should place our attention to getting good football players in here and not act and point fingers like its the coaches responsibility for everything that goes on. A lot of times we put too much focus on the coaches, in reality its the players that win the games. We've always complained about how coaches sucked from Gunther to Greg Robinson, etc...And what has that got us? ZERO! nothing..yup thats right..And did anyone happen to notice a specific trend going on? Why have the Chiefs sucked on defense all these years? Because coincedentally they didn't have enough good players. And, its the same thing today. A lot of people complain about Pendergast, but the bottomline is, the Chiefs don't have enough good players.

There are reasons why he is not playing some guys, who knows? Maybe he is trying to get a feel from the roster? I don't know. But we don't know why he is not playing guys. We think we do, but really we don't know what goes on back there and why he is playing certain guys or better yet what is running in his mind.

Chiefnj2 12-21-2009 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6367294)
Cam Cameron, 2008. One year, 1-15. Fired.

Lane Kiffin, 2007. One year, 4-12. Fired.

Art Shell, 2006. One year, 2-14. Fired.

Marty Schottenheimer, 2001. One year, 8-8. Fired.

Eric Mangini, 2009. One year, 3-11. Very likely to be fired.


It's been done before, and I'd have no problem if it happened to Haley.

Those moves worked really well for the Raiders and Skins.

OnTheWarpath15 12-21-2009 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6367472)
Those moves worked really well for the Raiders and Skins.

I'm sure the shitty ownership has nothing to do with it.

Cavgrunt 12-21-2009 03:44 PM

Why would Cowher want to come back to KC for the mess this team is in. All he can do is harm his reputation. If they get better he get credit but does he need credit.

Brock 12-21-2009 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cavgrunt (Post 6367837)
Why would Cowher want to come back to KC for the mess this team is in. All he can do is harm his reputation. If they get better he get credit but does he need credit.

He wouldn't. He'll get his choice of any job he wants.

RedThat 12-21-2009 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6367472)
Those moves worked really well for the Raiders and Skins.

Its funny how the Raiders and Skins have a lot of turnover within their organization, and don't have much to show for.

It really shows how "constant change" can be a bad thing.

Spott 12-21-2009 04:34 PM

Keeping Haley is a waste of time. He hasn't improved this team one bit and is in way over his head. There are plenty of better coaches out there that will just go by the wasteside if they keep Haley around next year.

OnTheWarpath15 12-21-2009 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6367859)
Its funny how the Raiders and Skins have a lot of turnover within their organization, and don't have much to show for.

It really shows how "constant change" can be a bad thing.

It also shows how meddlesome, know-nothing owners can **** up a franchise.

I can count the number of good decisions Snyder and Davis have made this decade on both hands.

Don't act like firing those coaches one year in ruined everything.

ChiefsCountry 12-21-2009 05:09 PM

I am almost ready to hop on the Cowher bandwagon - Pioli isn't building a dyntasy or Super Bowl winner, might as well be 10-6 each year and get lucky every other.

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-21-2009 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6368156)
It also shows how meddlesome, know-nothing owners can **** up a franchise.

I can count the number of good decisions Snyder and Davis have made this decade on both hands.

Don't act like firing those coaches one year in ruined everything.


No no no no no, "slow and steady" wins the Carl/Herm.


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