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keg in kc 01-05-2010 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6413688)
Seriously, Vince Young and Jay Cutler went in the same draft. Young won a bunch of games in college and has in the pros, are you going to honestly say you'd rather have him cause he's a "winner"?
After his recovery this year, I think you could make a fair argument for Young, although he did not end the year on a high note.

The Bad Guy 01-05-2010 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6413691)
Jesus, Frank.

He had ONE year over 20 INT's.

And it happened to be in a season in which his WR's were named Hester, Knox and Aromushudu.

He's NEVER thrown more INT's than TD's.
Got it. He's an awesome QB throwing to Brandon Marshall and Eddie Royal.

He sucks throwing to inferior WRs.

I guess it's only acceptable to throw a ton of picks to the other team when you have bad receivers and a rocket arm. Cassel only has the bad receivers aspect working for him right now.

OnTheWarpath15 01-05-2010 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6413693)
He should have won more games in college.

What big time NFL QB won only 11 games in college in 4 years?

That doesn't send some red flags to you that despite all his talent, he went to Vandy where he could pile up meaningless stats but knew the team would be awful all 4 years?
So again, he doesn't get the excuse Trent Green gets?

He was the only elite player on a team that played in the toughest conference in CFB. Yet he's supposed to will a team of smart kids with DII talent to wins over LSU, Florida, Alabama, etc?

Gimme a ****ing break.

tyler360 01-05-2010 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6413693)
He should have won more games in college.

What big time NFL QB won only 11 games in college in 4 years?

That doesn't send some red flags to you that despite all his talent, he went to Vandy where he could pile up meaningless stats but knew the team would be awful all 4 years?
Didnt elway not win very many games in college?

OnTheWarpath15 01-05-2010 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6413697)
You say people overlook how he sucks for his arm, I say some think he's a bum cause he was on the Broncos.
If Jay Cutler had played for the 49ers, this discussion never takes place.

keg in kc 01-05-2010 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6413697)
You say people overlook how he sucks for his arm, I say some think he's a bum cause he was on the Broncos.
Yeah, that's it. Nobody else is capable of halfway logical analysis. It all breaks down to homer fans hating rival players. Only you can see the light.

Mecca 01-05-2010 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 6413701)
After his recovery this year, I think you could make a fair argument for Young, although he did not end the year on a high note.
If you'd really rather have Vince Young than Jay Cutler...I'm going to question your sanity or just your general dislike of Cutler.

chiefzilla1501 01-05-2010 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6413697)
You say people overlook how he sucks for his arm, I say some think he's a bum cause he was on the Broncos.
Mecca, the national media is hounding Cutler because he played terrific football to close the season when it counted, and played shitty football to begin the season when the pressure was on. It's a criticism that has followed him his entire career.

Trust me, I wanted nothing more than to see Cutler do well to show the Broncos how stupid they were to trade him. But the guy literally has no backbone in pressure situations.

Mecca 01-05-2010 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 6413712)
Yeah, that's it. Nobody else is capable of halfway logical analysis. It all breaks down to homer fans hating rival players. Only you can see the light.
Really?

You just actually tried to argue in favor of Vince Young over Jay Cutler, logically speaking that makes no sense so it's something beyond just him as a player.

OnTheWarpath15 01-05-2010 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by tyler360 (Post 6413708)
Didnt elway not win very many games in college?
20 wins in the Pac 10.

Should have won more.

What a shitbag.

keg in kc 01-05-2010 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6413713)
If you'd really rather have Vince Young than Jay Cutler...I'm going to question your sanity or just your general dislike of Cutler.
I'd pick neither. You're posing a lesser of two evils question.

The Bad Guy 01-05-2010 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6413688)
Seriously, Vince Young and Jay Cutler went in the same draft. Young won a bunch of games in college and has in the pros, are you going to honestly say you'd rather have him cause he's a "winner"?
With the way he played this year, absolutely.

How can you undervalue a QB who wins games?

FAX 01-05-2010 10:21 PM
Source: Weis back in house. Wife calling 911.

FAX

Mecca 01-05-2010 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6413719)
With the way he played this year, absolutely.

How can you undervalue a QB who wins games?
Yep this is just down to the general dislike of Cutler.

Because as a starting QB in the NFL, Vince Young is a shitbag.

aturnis 01-05-2010 10:22 PM
I think Crennel would be very interested in the D-coordinator position. There are some talented players on the D. The offense on the other hand...

Cassel (a matter of opinion)
Bowe (dropaholic)
Charles (we'll see)

o-line is anemic. Who would want to walk into this?


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