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Mecca 01-07-2010 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerPig (Post 6418279)
Cause they're more outspoken? I think Clark wants to win, and he knows the best way he can do that is to step back, shut up, hire the best guy (he thinks is best) for the job, and support him.

No not that part...I think Snyder and Jones will spend for a player they think will put them over the top, I don't see that with our team.

Titty Meat 01-07-2010 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6418282)
Signing guys to minimum contracts is not being a player in FA.

This team was devoid of talent with huge cap space with an uncapped year looming and spent no money, explain how that is well thought out.

See what Pioli does this offseason before you can judge that.

Mecca 01-07-2010 03:05 AM

Well if we go to uncapped year he won't be doing anything because there aren't going to be any FA's.

See the problem?

TigerPig 01-07-2010 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6418267)
I got nothing against Charlie Weis, it's not that move by itself, it's all of them together.

Why not? That's a great idea, cause there's already chemistry! You don't have to take a year to have everyone acclimate to each other. Its like, "You two have already met? Good, now lets start winning!"

You want to start winning sooner than later? Try using a coaching crew that already knows each other. That's that much less time they have to figure stuff out.

BossChief 01-07-2010 03:05 AM

Clark Hunt $$$ spent

Stadium Renovations
Matt Cassel
Scott Pioli
Todd Haley
Firing Herm Edwards
Tyson Jackson
was in the running for Haynesworth (supposedly, who really knows?)

How do you know if Clark does or doesnt attend games? I know that Lamar only missed less than a handfull of games in like 40 years.

If you wanna talk shit about Lamar Hunt, go follow the ****ing Falcons or something.

Mecca 01-07-2010 03:06 AM

I'm sorry, in the time I've been alive I can't say Lamar Hunt cared that much about the team winning games.

Titty Meat 01-07-2010 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6418286)
Well if we go to uncapped year he won't be doing anything because there aren't going to be any FA's.

See the problem?

Maybe Pioli makes a move for a guy like Cribbs we'll see.

Titty Meat 01-07-2010 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6418288)
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If you wanna talk shit about Lamar Hunt, go follow the ****ing Falcons or something.

He was a nice man but in my lifetime his franchise really did suck.

TigerPig 01-07-2010 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6418283)
No not that part...I think Snyder and Jones will spend for a player they think will put them over the top, I don't see that with our team.

I don't want them to spend a lot on a big player. Its like putting the fountain up in front of your house before its built.

Until we have a solid player at every position, I don't want to see us go after that lunker of a FA. Free Agency is an EXPENSIVE way to build your team, a good team does so in the draft.

And if you think Pioli sucks at drafting players, then... it SUCKS TO BE YOU! :) Cause he's here, he's going to be drafting them for a while now (see how long our last GM was here), and there's nothing you can do about it.

Mecca 01-07-2010 03:10 AM

Well dude if you look at the Pats drafting history...it's pretty subpar especially as the years have gone on.

I'm a big proponent of the draft but I thought the Chiefs should have spent money this year, when you are that far under the cap, have no one to resign in the near future but have no players who are in the 26-30 range because you had very poor past drafts you should spend some money.

The Chiefs basically have money to spend because they drafted so poorly they have no stars to resign.

Titty Meat 01-07-2010 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6418295)
Well dude if you look at the Pats drafting history...it's pretty subpar especially as the years have gone on.

I'm a big proponent of the draft but I thought the Chiefs should have spent money this year, when you are that far under the cap, have no one to resign in the near future but have no players who are in the 26-30 range because you had very poor past drafts you should spend some money.

The Chiefs basically have money to spend because they drafted so poorly they have no stars to resign.

I'd rather build the core through the draft and sign free agents to fill some holes. I'm not a fan of drafting based on need.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-07-2010 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6418288)
Clark Hunt $$$ spent

Stadium Renovations
Matt Cassel
Scott Pioli
Todd Haley
Firing Herm Edwards
Tyson Jackson
was in the running for Haynesworth (supposedly, who really knows?)

How do you know if Clark does or doesnt attend games? I know that Lamar only missed less than a handfull of games in like 40 years.

If you wanna talk shit about Lamar Hunt, go follow the ****ing Falcons or something.

The Hunt family is pretty damned seedy. There are a shitload of scumbags infested in the familial lines. Hell, some of Lamar's brothers contributed to groups that helped fund Iran Contra. Of course, several were also convicted felons, and his dad was a man whore. Lamar himself was no saint as a businessman.

He turned a 25K investment into a multimillion dollar franchise. Good for him. But once he won the SB his level of interest waned significantly, which is why we had 2 GMs for 40 years and less than a handful of playoff wins.

Mecca 01-07-2010 03:21 AM

That is a completely different argument, you know the Pats core right now is a FA built core right?

Their drafts have really shit the bed as of late.

Titty Meat 01-07-2010 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6418310)
That is a completely different argument, you know the Pats core right now is a FA built core right?

Their drafts have really shit the bed as of late.

Child please. Brady, Seymour, Wilfork, Mayo, The O-line?

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-07-2010 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6418291)
Maybe Pioli makes a move for a guy like Cribbs we'll see.

Josh Cribbs is a nice player, but if he's what we're pinning our hopes on, they should just nuke the whole ****ing complex and start over.


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