No, the Chiefs are not talking any DLine #5 overall. Thats me further saying Okung wont be the pick.

Don't be a hypocrite. You were the asshole squealing about first round draft picks on the offensive line. I don't give a flying **** if Sharper was a 12th round draft pick. He wasn't a first. Oh, Jeff Saturday is a great center, so it's like he's a first...idiot.

By the way, who is Saunders?

Saturday? Are you seriously talking about a Center in the first now ROFL

The point is we already have a first round LT, we don't need another. You being a stupid ****ing idiot wont change the fact that Okung physically nor mentally could come in here and beat out Albert for LT. Oh and I like the flip to spelling, always a sign of when someone knows they are wrong and want to change the subject. Go to bed kid, the adults are speaking.

The only mystery around here is how you manage to remember to breath.

I can't remember saying anything about what I though Pioli was going to do, so again, for about the 2,487th time, you interject some irrelevant idiocy into the conversation.

Okay, this is my last response to you because you are obviously too dumb to follow this conversation or relate one post to another. I know it's not your fault (well, maybe you huffed a shit ton of glue or paint or something when you were a kid and it's not genetically induced stupidity), so I'll just refrain from responding to you in an effort to keep you from further embarrassing yourself.

The fact that he was a first round pick doesn't change his performance on the field, which, to this point, has been less than stellar.

Now I am actually hoping that they pick Okung just to watch your response when he opens the season at LT.

What are talking about? What spelling?

If you are an adult, I'd be really shocked. Honestly. You act/post like your an immature 17 year old.

This is my opinion..

I think this team is going to take McClain first, it's not what I'd do but it's what I think they'll do.

I think they'll follow that by trying to get guys like Charles Brown and Terrence Cody in the 2nd since those guys are basic carbon fits for what this coach and GM like.

I'm with you 100%. Though they might take a flyer on a receiver if either one of those two guys aren't there in the second with the later pick.

I have extreme question about drafting Charles Brown but he's basically exactly what Haley seems to want Albert to be so it makes sense.

The fact that hes only a SECOND YEAR PLAYER does. The fact that he dropped to a lighter weight than what he played even in college does. The fact we changed blocking schemes a week before the season does. The fact he had to learn a whole new technique and mechanics(just like Okung will have to coming from the spread). You just don't get that teams run different schemes, you don't get that different blockers fit different systems. You don't get that Albert is a better LT for OUR team than Okung is. Sure Okung could be a better LT than Albert on some teams, but not this team. On our team Okungs best position is RT.

People who give up on first round picks after just their second year(especially when he was in four completely different systems in the last three years) need to have their draft talking abilities revoked.

I wouldn't be happy with it as I don't think Brown is a viable NFL LT, or at least what he showed during the USC games I watched. But I think he'd fit what Haley envisions as an appropriate LT in his zone block scheme.

The problem with trying to predict what they do in this draft from a player perspective is that they have so many holes, and Haley has a couple of positions that he just seems to loathe - mainly the receivers and safeties. However, I think that Pioli has major input on the type of players that get drafted, probably more than Haley does and it will be interesting to see who they put the value on in this next draft. Even if Berry is available, it's not a given that he'll be the pick.

I wouldn't be too surprised if they traded down and picked Jared Odrick in the late teens/early 20's. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they picked him at #5.

I'm not big on using high picks on non elite prospects but frankly I don't think this regime is remotely married to Branden Albert.

Part of the reason I've never thought we'd take Okung is the jizz fest Pioli will have over McClain that and if you gave Haley a pick of OT's he'd probably take Brown.

He needs to gain about 15lbs, I don't think he'd have much problem doing it he has a very large fame to work with. He is athletic, he is from a pro style system and he's already use to functioning in a zone blocking scheme since that's what SC does.

I'm not sure he's ready to play from day 1 at LT though...Charles Brown to me is like D'Brickashaw Ferguson with less experience. He's light yet athletic and I don't think he will ever be a mammoth mauling run blocker he's a pulling athletic type.

Which is why Brown's only position at the next level is LT.

I'm not so sure that he's the right guy for Haley. Not that Okung is either, but Okung is closer to what he wants out of a LT than Albert will ever be. Mecca is closer to it with the suggestion of Charlie Brown than anything, but I suspect that Albert will be given another chance - though there is no guarantee, as I'm sure that Haley wasn't too overly pleased with his play this past season. They aren't into him for much money and they've already shown a propensity to have little patience with Herm/Carl guys.

I imagine that they will try to trade down and get more picks. Buffalo and Jacksonville might try to leapfrog Seattle, Cleveland and even Oakland if they think that a qb that they like might not be there. But they could pick a number of different players if they stay at #5, Okung included.

Look if you want something in the way of a trade down, hope that St Louis takes Suh. Of course this entire forum would flip because we'd be trading down with Berry on the board but I think the Chiefs have very little interest in drafting him.

I don't see them picking Berry either (though he's the guy I'd like if he was still available at the #5). And I think that St. Louis takes Suh. I just don't see them falling in love with either Bradford or Clausen and Suh is the standout in this draft class even though they've spent two of the last three years on defensive line guys (Long and Carriker).

They might even hold out hope that they suck enough next season to potentially draft Gabbert in 2011.