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Crush 03-05-2010 09:13 PM

A couple of movies that get no respect here in the states are Night Watch and Day Watch. Quite possibly some of the best damn stuff that the fantasy genre has to offer.
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blaise 03-05-2010 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 6580946)
Pretty much most of my VHS and DVD collection.

I'll just take a look at one shelf and see what I spot.

First row:

The Iron Giant
The Last Of The Mohicans
The Fisher King
Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

I need to watch that. I've only read the play, but I really enjoyed reading it.

dvd rental 03-05-2010 11:05 PM

DVD rental of The Men Who Stare at Goats
 
The Men Who Stare at Goats

patteeu 03-06-2010 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by blaise (Post 6581324)
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Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead
I need to watch that. I've only read the play, but I really enjoyed reading it.

While I was checking that movie out on the Netflix website I came across this similarly titled 2009 movie that surprisingly had an even higher rating:

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Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Undead(2009) NR

At loose ends, actor and playboy Julian Marsh (Jake Hoffman) accepts a gig directing a bizarre adaptation of "Hamlet" -- written by a spooky-looking Romanian playwright -- that transforms the bard's classic into a tale about vampires and finding the Holy Grail. Before long, life begins to imitate art and Marsh is up to his neck in problems as, one by one, cast members become actual vampires and take sides in an ancient war of the undead.

Jerm 03-06-2010 09:02 AM

Frailty
Apocalypto
Munich
The Day After
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CosmicPal 03-06-2010 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 6572977)
It is labeled as a "cult classic" by most. That puts it in the same category as Evil Dead series. To the majority of typical movie watchers, my bet is it doesn't even rank in the top 100.

To me, that means it is not receiving the respect it deserves. The most probable cause is the content; it is too "icky" and "graphic" and "horrifying" for your run of the mill mouthbreathers. ;)

It is a cult classic, however, it is also regarded by the film industry as one of the best movies.

Even IMDB users seem to agree by placing it in the top 50: http://www.imdb.com/chart/top

heapshake 03-06-2010 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 6581713)
While I was checking that movie out on the Netflix website I came across this similarly titled 2009 movie that surprisingly had an even higher rating:
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Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Undead(2009) NR

At loose ends, actor and playboy Julian Marsh (Jake Hoffman) accepts a gig directing a bizarre adaptation of "Hamlet" -- written by a spooky-looking Romanian playwright -- that transforms the bard's classic into a tale about vampires and finding the Holy Grail. Before long, life begins to imitate art and Marsh is up to his neck in problems as, one by one, cast members become actual vampires and take sides in an ancient war of the undead.

I just saved that to my Queue. It has Ralph Macchio in it so it must be good.

Frazod 03-06-2010 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 6580946)
Pretty much most of my VHS and DVD collection.

I'll just take a look at one shelf and see what I spot.

First row:

The Iron Giant
The Last Of The Mohicans
The Fisher King
Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

I sure wish they'd come out with a new blu ray of Last of the Mohicans that does two things:

1. Replace the Land of the Lost waterfall special effects.
2. GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL ENDING :# They replaced a great, dramatic ending with a giant piece of shit. WTF was Mann thinking?

Deberg_1990 03-06-2010 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 6582270)
I sure wish they'd come out with a new blu ray of Last of the Mohicans that does two things:

1. Replace the Land of the Lost waterfall special effects.
2. GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL ENDING :# They replaced a great, dramatic ending with a giant piece of shit. WTF was Mann thinking?


Yea, he added several scenes in the special edition i think? Havent watched it in awhile....

But damn, thats a great flick...one of my faves.

Baby Lee 03-06-2010 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 6575432)
MC is great, but I actually put Blood Simple higher.

Blood Simple is up there, but Fargo is, for me the complete package. Like a fine wine, it's just chock full of those little 'notes' that linger, a skotche of macabre, a pinch of craven, a pinch of offbeat, and soupcon of wacky, a splash of mundane. The difference for me between Blood Simple and Fargo is the difference between a competent etude and a life's work culminating symphony. Blood Simple plucks the strings, but Fargo flourishes them.

That said, I'd be KEENLY interested to hear ol' Fraz' take on Blood Simple. It certainly 'pays off' in a more conventional way while retaining the signature Coen quirks.

Frazod 03-06-2010 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 6582601)
Yea, he added several scenes in the special edition i think? Havent watched it in awhile....

But damn, thats a great flick...one of my faves.

Nothing added enhanced anything, IMO. One of the worst director's cuts I've ever seen - right down there with Troy and The Abyss.

Frazod 03-06-2010 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 6582991)
Blood Simple is up there, but Fargo is, for me the complete package. Like a fine wine, it's just chock full of those little 'notes' that linger, a skotche of macabre, a pinch of craven, a pinch of offbeat, and soupcon of wacky, a splash of mundane. The difference for me between Blood Simple and Fargo is the difference between a competent etude and a life's work culminating symphony. Blood Simple plucks the strings, but Fargo flourishes them.

That said, I'd be KEENLY interested to hear ol' Fraz' take on Blood Simple. It certainly 'pays off' in a more conventional way while retaining the signature Coen quirks.

After reading this, I have a sudden urge to buy flowers and put on something pink. Thank God it will pass quickly.

Fargo was mostly very good. The whole subplot with the Asian dude having the crush on the sheriff was one of the most mind-numbingly reeruned things I've ever seen in an otherwise great film.

Fire Me Boy! 03-06-2010 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 6582991)
Blood Simple is up there, but Fargo is, for me the complete package. Like a fine wine, it's just chock full of those little 'notes' that linger, a skotche of macabre, a pinch of craven, a pinch of offbeat, and soupcon of wacky, a splash of mundane. The difference for me between Blood Simple and Fargo is the difference between a competent etude and a life's work culminating symphony. Blood Simple plucks the strings, but Fargo flourishes them.

That said, I'd be KEENLY interested to hear ol' Fraz' take on Blood Simple. It certainly 'pays off' in a more conventional way while retaining the signature Coen quirks.

I like Fargo, but it's pretty far down the list for me. I think they've done much better. Fargo was just what introduced them to mainstream audiences.

I will say, even "far down the list" of Coen's is still very high on my overall list of movies. I'm a huge fan (I'll just pretend Intolerable Cruelty and The Ladykillers didn't happen).

mikeyis4dcats. 03-06-2010 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 6583116)
I like Fargo, but it's pretty far down the list for me. I think they've done much better. Fargo was just what introduced them to mainstream audiences.

I will say, even "far down the list" of Coen's is still very high on my overall list of movies. I'm a huge fan (I'll just pretend Intolerable Cruelty and The Ladykillers didn't happen).

ugh, that LITERALLY made me shiver.

Deberg_1990 03-06-2010 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 6583116)
(I'll just pretend Intolerable Cruelty and The Ladykillers didn't happen).

UGHH....i hated those. It was like they were trying to go mainstream and it didnt quite work out for them??

Really looking forward to their True Grit remake with Jeff Bridges.


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