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TheGuardian 05-10-2010 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6750321)
Weis didn't do anything worth noting with Drew Bledsoe. He was the OC way back in the 90's for NE and didn't do shit until Belicheat started filming signals.

Brady actually got better after Weis left and had the best season a QB has EVER had under the tutelage of McDaniels. Weis is not considered some mastermind or offensive genius. The Patriots won SB's by stealing signals and running the ball.
Brady got better because that's the normal learning curve for the NFL you ****ing moron.

BossChief 05-10-2010 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6750207)
I don't say many negative things about the Chiefs, but I don't think the Chiefs have the staff to develop a QB. Cassel regressed under Haley, Brady Quinn has been a bust in the NFL, and Jimmy Clausen was like the number 1 recruit in the nation coming into Notre Dame and he wasn't even drafted in the first round.
I had to +rep this post because you give so much comedic value in your posts I dont want you to go in the red and leave and I know some had to pound that dumb ****ing post.

Quesadilla Joe 05-10-2010 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6750301)

Our coach was the offensive coordinator that took the Cards to the SB and helped Warner look like the old MVP Warner again (Warner admits that Haley played a big part in this) and yet we don't have the staff to develop a QB?

****ing

Stupid
Larry Fitgerald, Breaston, and Anquan Boldin made Kurt Warner look like the old MVP Warner. Warner didn't have a good OL in NY and his early days in AZ.

I will rep your last post in this thread for being unbiased about Tebow, but I have to wait 24 hours until I can give out any more rep.

ClevelandBronco 05-10-2010 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by alanm (Post 6750319)
When the vets come in I wonder how that's going to go down? His trying to impart his religious views on everyone.
What gives you the idea that anything like that will happen?

Quesadilla Joe 05-10-2010 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by alanm (Post 6750319)
When the vets come in I wonder how that's going to go down? His trying to impart his religious views on everyone.
Tebow has said he won't push his views on anybody in the locker room. But if somebody wants to talk he is more than willing to. Everyone on the Broncos LOVES Brian Dawkins and he is a very religious person. I think Dawkins and Tebow will hit it off and once B-Dawk is on your side you won't have any enemies.

DaKCMan AP 05-10-2010 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6750321)
Weis didn't do anything worth noting with Drew Bledsoe. He was the OC way back in the 90's for NE and didn't do shit until Belicheat started filming signals.

Brady actually got better after Weis left and had the best season a QB has EVER had under the tutelage of McDaniels. Weis is not considered some mastermind or offensive genius. The Patriots won SB's by stealing signals and running the ball.
It didn't have anything to do with the Patriots acquiring Randy Moss and Wes Welker...

DaKCMan AP 05-10-2010 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6750332)
Larry Fitgerald, Breaston, and Anquan Boldin made Kurt Warner look like the old MVP Warner. Warner didn't have a good OL in NY and his early days in AZ.

I will rep your last post in this thread for being unbiased about Tebow, but I have to wait 24 hours until I can give out any more rep.
So, let me get this straight.

Fitz, Breaston and Boldin made Warner look good, not Haley.

McDaniels made Brady look good, not Moss and Welker.

ROFL

DBOSHO 05-10-2010 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6750321)
Weis didn't do anything worth noting with Drew Bledsoe. He was the OC way back in the 90's for NE and didn't do shit until Belicheat started filming signals.

Brady actually got better after Weis left and had the best season a QB has EVER had under the tutelage of McDaniels. Weis is not considered some mastermind or offensive genius. The Patriots won SB's by stealing signals and running the ball.
So why didnt orton throw for 4500 yards and 40 touchdowns?

DaneMcCloud 05-10-2010 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DBOSHO (Post 6750222)
So let me get this straight.

The offensive coordinator who made brady great, who is widely recognized as one of the best qb coaches and creative minds the NFLs ever seen, who coached 2 first round talents into the nfl(clausen wouldve gone #1 overall if he had bradfords attitude; jurys still out on quinn. You may be right, but he played qb carousel in cle)

+

the offensive coordinator who took the cardinals to the superbowl

arent talented enough to develop a quarterback? A quarterback whos protection failed him almost as much as the recievers did?
Weis didn't make Brady great. BRADY made Brady great. Weis was just along for the ride.

Haley was the OC in name-only during the 2007 season and while it's true he called the plays in 2008, he was under the watchful eye of Ken Whisenhunt.

Haley sucked ass as the OC for the Chiefs in 2009.

Quesadilla Joe 05-10-2010 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 6750345)
It didn't have anything to do with the Patriots acquiring Randy Moss and Wes Welker...
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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 6750346)
So, let me get this straight.

Fitz, Breaston and Boldin made Warner look good, not Haley.

McDaniels made Brady look good, not Moss and Welker.

ROFL
Tom Brady never had a QB rating above 86.5 when Charlie Weis was his OC, and had his WORST year the last year Weis was there.

In McDaniels first season as OC Brady had a 92.6 QB Rating without Moss and Welker, and had his worst group of receivers the following year and had a QB Rating of 87.9 (still better than any year under Weis). Then 2007 happened.

Quesadilla Joe 05-10-2010 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DBOSHO (Post 6750347)
So why didnt orton throw for 4500 yards and 40 touchdowns?
He had a better year than Tom Brady ever did under Charlie Weis.

TheGuardian 05-10-2010 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6750354)
He had a better year than Tom Brady ever did under Charlie Weis.
The donkeys won the SB??????????

Quesadilla Joe 05-10-2010 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6750360)
The donkeys won the SB??????????
I understand your point, but I was just talking statwise. Also the Patriots kinda cheated and Brady was nothing but a game manager.

alanm 05-10-2010 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6749657)
I was a HUGE Cutler fan until he demanded to be traded from my favorite team. If you don't want to be a Denver Bronco then you can rot in hell.
What if he had just asked nicely?

DaWolf 05-10-2010 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6750353)
Tom Brady never had a QB rating above 86.5 when Charlie Weis was his OC, and had his WORST year the last year Weis was there.

In McDaniels first season as OC Brady had a 92.6 QB Rating without Moss and Welker, and had his worst group of receivers the following year and had a QB Rating of 87.9 (still better than any year under Weis). Then 2007 happened.
What's more impressive, Brady having higher QB ratings with McDaniels after he'd clearly become a seasoned vet, or Brady winning three rings with Weis, including one as a first year starter?

Also, I think the 92.6 year was Weis' last year...


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