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Peter King: Flowers call, worst interference call of the year (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=235339)

Rausch

10-19-2010 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 7100690)

This was called on Tony G all the time. I just wish officials could find a way to be consistent.

They are.

If you're a super stud you don't get called on it...

crazycoffey

10-19-2010 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 7099642)

By what the rule says, you're right. By what they generally call and don't call 50/50 and with under 2 minutes with the guy being sold as the best WR in the league, they aren't going to call it.

After years of watching the game you realize this after awhile.

You really do deserve a lot of the angst you get on this board.
"years of watching" You do realize many other posters have watched just as many games as you have? It was obviously OPI and any defense against it not being called is stupid. Plain and simple.

BTW - I've watched the NFL for about 24-25 years now. how many years have you been watching?

007	10-19-2010 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 7100715)

They are.

If you're a super stud you don't get called on it...

So they don't consider Tony a super stud for most of his career. Damn, playing for KC really drags you down.

crazycoffey

10-19-2010 03:59 AM

Yeah, I really hate that "stars don't get that called on them" defense. This isn't the NBA...

Rausch

10-19-2010 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 7100731)

So they don't consider Tony a super stud for most of his career. Damn, playing for KC really drags you down.

Yup.

He had it so rough here...

....****ing prettyboy douchebag.

Marcellus

10-19-2010 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey (Post 7100740)

Yeah, I really hate that "stars don't get that called on them" defense. This isn't the NBA...

I swear I was sure TG was a star.

Bwana

10-19-2010 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 7099939)

It warms my freaking heart when the guys at the pro level care so much about the outcome of the game. Seriously, I love seeing emotion on the sidelines (happy, said or pissed - it's all good) and in the locker room. I freaking loved the expression on B-Flow's face after he was done shadowing the dumb**** who made that call. Seeing DJ leap over the line like that in desperation was also amazing.

This all falls squarely on Todd Haley's shoulders. When the team is playing with fire and passion like that, it's 100% on the coach, that's why I love him. I pray he can keep that fire lit.

I think they will take it out on the Jags this Sunday. :thumb:

Baby Lee

10-19-2010 06:48 AM

This pure speculation, but thinking back on it, I don't think that it was a oopsy, heat-of-the-moment, OPI either. Just a series or so back in the game thread I wrote 'Flowers is in their brainz' when they ran on 3rd and long. I recall there being a marked fear of airing it out despite being so far behind.

Couple this with Johnson's acknowledgement of the contact after the game, and I picture Johnson pleading on the sidelines for that out pass promising he WILL get separation.

TheGuardian

10-19-2010 06:50 AM

Johnson admits to to OPI.........

Quote:

"During a lot of our routes today, they were bumping us while we were down the field. In that play, I did a go route and I knew (QB) Matt (Schaub) told me if I had a single safety that he was going to give me a chance. He told me that earlier in the game. I was just determined that they were not going to bump me around. He tried to run into me and bump me and I hit him with a little elbow to create some separation and was able to make a play."

I hope this bundle of sticks gets his knees blown out. Along with that ref.

milkman

10-19-2010 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7099201)

Again, the game's on the line - whose number are you going to call? The playmaker, or the playbreaker? As Clint Eastwood might say, a man's got to know his limitations.

It was beyond bad. It was mindless and it cost us the game. And when I say that, I mean the wretched defense would have been overcome and the terrible blown call would have never happened had we just rushed for those two yards. No one will ever convince me otherwise.

The fact that we weren't able to rush for two yards in short yardage situations for most of the game had a big influence in Weis' playcall in that situation.

Think about it.

How many times did the Chiefs attempt to convert on fourth down because they weren't able to convert on third down?

milkman

10-19-2010 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl (Post 7099207)

It's still an arm bar regardless of whether he's looking for the ball or not. People can bitch about it but it's technically a good call. It shouldn't matter because Johnson caught the damn ball anyway.

Except that if Flowers isn't pushed, then it's highly possible, even probable, that he knocks the ball down.

InChiefsHeaven

10-19-2010 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7100802)

Johnson admits to to OPI.........

I hope this pillowbiter gets his knees blown out. Along with that ref.

Um...a blown out knee is a bit much. He did what he had to do to gain separation...he HAD to cheat basically. As they say, if you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'. I'd blame the refs long before I'd blame Johnson.

milkman

10-19-2010 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 7099610)

This was discussed yesterday, Austin fully extended his arm in plain view and the CB fell down, he was much more blatant.

If you extend your arm you'll always get called, Johnson was smart enough to not do that.

There were two OPIs in the Jets-Donkey game that were less obvious pushoffs than Andre Johnson's.

milkman

10-19-2010 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7099674)

Right or wrong, Mecca has a point.

That play rarely, if ever gets called - on either the WR or defender.

People are comparing it to the Miles Austin play, and the OPI's in the Denver game - none of which was even comparable to the Flowers play.

On Austin's, and two of the 3 in the Denver game, the WR placed his hands on the DB and extended his arms, knocking the defender to the ground.

Time to get over it, folks. It didn't cost us the game.

While I agree that Andre Johnson is going to get away with that most of the time, I don't agree that two of the three OPIs in the Jet game had the receiver extending his arms.

One did, but two of them had me laughing because they were less than Johnson's.

TheGuardian

10-19-2010 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7100851)

Except that if Flowers isn't pushed, then it's highly possible, even probable, that he knocks the ball down.

This is exactly right. Seeing how Flowers had already defended several passes that day.

I personally think that Johnson pushes because that was the only way he could in fact get separation from Flowers, who was stuck to his ass like glue on that play. So I don't buy for a second that it's a moot point because Johnson caught the ball. Flowers was in perfect position looking back at the ball. Without that push Johnson isn't making that catch more than likely.

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