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Stryker 12-20-2011 12:56 PM

Orton is not the answer - he is a "short" term solution. Ditch Cassel and Palko, draft a QB in the first and keep Stanzi and Orton (1 yr. contract ?).

What would you say if the zebra shows his stripes in the next 2 games? Will he still be the "answer"? I like him better than Cassel but not as a permenant solution.

htismaqe 12-20-2011 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 8223088)
DaKCman

What is the hit if we cut cassel??

I'm not 100% certain of the cap implications but all of the guaranteed money has already been paid, so the cash hit to Hunt is basically zero.

chiefscafan 12-20-2011 01:00 PM

Yes because add Hightower this D becomes elite and makes up for a lot of defficiencies.

DaKCMan AP 12-20-2011 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 8223088)
DaKCman

What is the hit if we cut cassel??

Who cares? We've been operating $30mil under the cap.

ChiefsCountry 12-20-2011 01:01 PM

Hightower will be available in the 2nd round.

chiefscafan 12-20-2011 01:02 PM

Hmm thanks hts

I thought that I'm hoping pioli moves on from cassel not sure if he will though

chiefscafan 12-20-2011 01:03 PM

I'm saying we should draft the guy reminds me of ray Lewis a beast on the field

durtyrute 12-20-2011 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8222773)
We also have no idea how the combined multiple picks (however many) used ot move up will play in the NFL. It's all uncertain. You're using the excuse of uncertainty to not give up uncertainty. It's completely illogical.

No, I'm using the fact that we just drafted a QB, that we haven't even seen, and the fact that we have one now, that will do for a few years, as an excuse. If the BPA is a QB so be it. I'm not selling my soul for anyone in the draft. Let Stanzi and the unknown battle it out. I'm all about getting a shiny new QB but I'm not giving up 2 first and 2 seconds or whatever unreasonable crap you guys are throwing out. If it's something like this years 1st and next years 2 second, I'll do that, but I'm not going to go all crazy for anyone.

DaKCMan AP 12-20-2011 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by durtyrute (Post 8223176)
No, I'm using the fact that we just drafted a QB, that we haven't even seen, and the fact that we have one now, that will do for a few years, as an excuse. If the BPA is a QB so be it. I'm not selling my soul for anyone in the draft. Let Stanzi and the unknown battle it out. I'm all about getting a shiny new QB but I'm not giving up 2 first and 2 seconds or whatever unreasonable crap you guys are throwing out. If it's something like this years 1st and next years 2 second, I'll do that, but I'm not going to go all crazy for anyone.

If the BPA is a WR do you draft him?
If the BPA is a SS do you draft him?
If the BPA is a CB do you draft him (assuming Carr is re-signed)?

Hammock Parties 12-20-2011 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8223060)
Why draft a QB when we can pick up a RT, NT, sign Orton and be ready for a Super Bowl run?

LMAO

Sure is ****ing sad how people around here will get on their knees for the first 299-yard passer that buys the fanbase a drink.

durtyrute 12-20-2011 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8223190)
If the BPA is a WR do you draft him?
If the BPA is a SS do you draft him?
If the BPA is a CB do you draft him (assuming Carr is re-signed)?

Good point, I'll go BPA in a position of need. I'm not drafting any of those that you put up, not in the first. If it's a QB then great. I'm just not up for throwing eight picks for one player. Shit, I still want to see what Stanzi has.

Reaper16 12-20-2011 01:21 PM

In the words of the great htismaqe: "Better than bad ≠ good"

chiefscafan 12-20-2011 01:22 PM

I'm tired of the OT in first talk every year. We can get one in later rounds or free agency.


If we want a new face of franchise trade up get QB sign orton and let the fun begin.

If not then trade down draft the one thing this D needs a ILB by DJ the thumper to shut down runs up the middle.

This team isn't as far away as most think

lcarus 12-20-2011 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jidar (Post 8222417)
The Orton thing

It's the best QB play we've seen in awhile, but that's not saying much.
I'm okay with Orton at QB, but I realize it's mostly because I've seen such shitty QB play here for the past few years. When you're eating ramen noodles every day then microwave pizza seems like gourmet fare. Thing is, you'll get tired of Microwave pizza pretty quick too and then we'll all be back to bitching about drafting a QBOTF.

Orton had a really good game against Green Bay by anybody's standards.

htismaqe 12-20-2011 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 8223230)
I'm tired of the OT in first talk every year. We can get one in later rounds or free agency.


If we want a new face of franchise trade up get QB sign orton and let the fun begin.

If not then trade down draft the one thing this D needs a ILB by DJ the thumper to shut down runs up the middle.

This team isn't as far away as most think

If you want to shut down runs up the middle, we need a NT.


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