Apologies are viewed by our mod overlords as a sign of weakness. Give them both barrels or they won't respect you.

See what I mean, Direckshun. You can feel the condescension trying to burst forth from DaFace's fingers.

Looks like DraftPlanet is back.

FWIW, I went ahead and put Draft Planet at the top while I tinker with a few things.

ChiefsPlanet >>>> PatriotsPlanet

Which forum looks more professional: Pats Planet or Chiefs Planet?

I like CP more.

Definitely ChiefsPlanet, but only by a hair (it's not that different really)

However, adding an extra inch of space isn't going to ruin anyone's day like you think it is for some reason.

It's not like we have sticky threads all the time. You can get to the new posts in the same amount of time it took when there was no Draft Planet subforum up top.

Thats funny. I don't see it.

Oh yeah, because I have had it blocked for 3 years.

Every time ChiefsPlanet takes a step toward being more like all the other forums on the Internet, whether it's toward more forum segmentation or heavier moderation, it loses a little bit of it's burst, IMO.

I think you should combine DC/Draft Planet. That way it'll be on the front page where Direckshun can find it.

I never realized how much of a pain in the ass it was to bookmark a page.

The point is, web usability has a lot to do with reducing the amount of scrolling people have to do. The stat I've heard over and over again is that users spend 80% of their time looking at content "above the fold" - in other words, above the bottom of the screen when they haven't scrolled down at all. That's undoubtedly way too high for regulars around here, but it's probably close for people visiting for the first time. Too much scrolling is irritating, and when people have to do it too much, it makes a site seem clunky and unprofessional.

I know we're not trying to make money around here, but I've always "admin-ed" around here with the #1 goal of improving usability. I know it doesn't seem like much, but I honestly think less of sites like the Orange Mane and Pats Planet when I visit just because they're not designed as well. Their color schemes, post layouts, and excessive amounts of stickies, subforums, and random youtube videos at the top of the page makes it a slower information consuming experience. My goal is to help people absorb the maximum amount of information in the quickest amount of time, which means reducing any of that crap that isn't necessary. That includes that little 1/4" of space. It's not much, but when you load a page a hundred times a day, it adds up subconsciously.

Regardless, there may be a way to make this work and let people choose on their own, so stay tuned.

Apologies, my uplink to the modbrain must have been offline that day. While we strive to have the same knowledge and opinions 100% of the time, there are hiccups from time to time.

Drama.