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Coogs 01-16-2012 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 8302977)
Good thing they already had a #1 overall pick already playing at QB... LMAO

Trust me, I am all in on trading the farm for Luck. Possibly even RGIII, but more so on Luck.

Not expecting that to happen though, so I'm OK with going Konz at C, with Hudson and Asamoah at G, Albert at LT, and getting a RT in the 2nd round. I'm also OK with Hudson at C, DeCastro and Asamoah at G, Albert at LT and getting a RT in the 2nd.

What I am not really OK with is getting a LT in the first, and moving Albert somewhere else right now... but it is early.

ArrowheadMagic 01-16-2012 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8303143)
Trust me, I am all in on trading the farm for Luck. Possibly even RGIII, but more so on Luck.

Not expecting that to happen though, so I'm OK with going Konz at C, with Hudson and Asamoah at G, Albert at LT, and getting a RT in the 2nd round. I'm also OK with Hudson at C, DeCastro and Asamoah at G, Albert at LT and getting a RT in the 2nd.

This.

htismaqe 01-17-2012 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8302065)
I'm not. I think the Jets did it a few years prior to that with D'Brick and Mangold in the first round. Not 100% sure on that, but that is what I recall.

The Jets o-line situation is a disaster, primarily because they spent so much on it and it's still pretty ineffective.

Coogs 01-17-2012 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8304845)
The Jets o-line situation is a disaster, primarily because they spent so much on it and it's still pretty ineffective.

I was just pointing out that it is not uncommon to go O-line with back-to-back picks to open the draft, and that two teams have actually done it in round 1 recently.

htismaqe 01-17-2012 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8304935)
I was just pointing out that it is not uncommon to go O-line with back-to-back picks to open the draft, and that two teams have actually done it in round 1 recently.

The Rams have done it too.

There's a whole lot of fail in the list of teams that have done it, actually.

It's not a good idea.

Coogs 01-17-2012 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8305135)
The Rams have done it too.

There's a whole lot of fail in the list of teams that have done it, actually.

It's not a good idea.

The Jets have been to the AFC Championship twice (or is it 3 times since they have done this), the 49ers this year.

Not saying it is a good thing to do at all. Just saying it might be time to fix the damn thing too, since it is a glaring weakness with age and poor play at RT.

whoman69 01-17-2012 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8283049)
You have the most outdated football takes I've ever seen. Building those trenches, the key to winning football in the twenty tens :drool:

Certainly not as important as it used to be, but I think we're seeing the best defensive teams and the teams that can run the ball advance in the playoffs, ie Giants, Ravens and 49ers.

htismaqe 01-17-2012 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8305170)
The Jets have been to the AFC Championship twice (or is it 3 times since they have done this), the 49ers this year.

Not saying it is a good thing to do at all. Just saying it might be time to fix the damn thing too, since it is a glaring weakness with age and poor play at RT.

I know you know this, but the goal isn't to make it to the AFC championship and get beat by a team with a franchise QB...

Coogs 01-17-2012 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8306103)
I know you know this, but the goal isn't to make it to the AFC championship and get beat by a team with a franchise QB...

See post 121.

O.city 01-17-2012 08:47 PM

Sac, since you are the expert on OL, whats your take on Carl Nicks?

Would a lineup of

Albert, Nicks, Hudson, Asamoah, Reynolds be a solid oline that we could build on?

Saccopoo 01-17-2012 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8306752)
Sac, since you are the expert on OL, whats your take on Carl Nicks?

Would a lineup of

Albert, Nicks, Hudson, Asamoah, Reynolds be a solid oline that we could build on?

With Hudson and Asamoah being recent round two picks by the Pioli regime, and Lilja on roster, I don't see the Chiefs spending big free agent money on Nicks. He'll get paid pretty well by someone (Detroit, Dallas, Houston, Chicago, Carolina and Arizona all could use an upgrade at the guard position more than the Chiefs) this offseason. I just don't see Pioli, who hasn't shown the propensity to spend large amounts of money on free agents (with the notable exception of Matt Cassel), pluniking down a lot on a free agent guard.

I think that Asamoah can be a really good player with another year under his belt, and Hudson, when given the reps this past season, really showed some great stuff. (The guy is bull strong with excellent leverage.)

They should just go ahead and draft a real center and promote Wiegmann to offensive line coach.

Bewbies 01-17-2012 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8306752)
Sac, since you are the expert on OL, whats your take on Carl Nicks?

Would a lineup of

Albert, Nicks, Hudson, Asamoah, Reynolds be a solid oline that we could build on?

LMAO

Coogs 01-17-2012 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8306752)
Sac, since you are the expert on OL, whats your take on Carl Nicks?

Would a lineup of

Albert, Nicks, Hudson, Asamoah, Reynolds be a solid oline that we could build on?

They had this report over in the Shrine Bowl Thread from Monday's practice on Reynolds...

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BYU offensive tackle Matt Reynolds (6-4, 310) was smaller than expected. He had a mixed practice and should probably move inside to guard. His body shape just falls short of tackles in terms of height and arm length. Mississippi defensive end Kentrell Lockett (6-5, 243) beat him in a one-on-one, as Reynolds lost his feet and fell to the ground. In the coming days, he needs to play better.

Saccopoo 01-17-2012 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8306787)
They had this report over in the Shrine Bowl Thread from Monday's practice on Reynolds...

And this was from the gbn report on the same practice:

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As I prefaced this article, it's early in the proceedings, but I was favorably impressed with the work of BYU OT Matt Reynolds at LT today during blocking drills. Reynolds had a nice first step and maintained his balance quite well; he looks to be a bit of a knee bender, but at least he does not appear to pop-up straight up out of his stance, while he also displayed a decent hand punch, which of course bought him time to steady himself. Bottom line is that Reynods showed enough to make me think he has a chance to compete at the OT position at the next level, instead of an automatic switch inside to OG as some have projected recently.
This is why the body of work by a player is a little more important than some casual observations on one day of practice at a post season all star game
by a blogger.

Coogs 01-17-2012 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 8306815)
And this was from the gbn report on the same practice:



This is why the body of work by a player is a little more important than some casual observations on one day of practice at a post season all star game
by a blogger.

Fair enough.


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