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1ChiefsDan 03-13-2012 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Pittsie (Post 8447719)
So it'll be Manning's fault when we inevitably fail to sign Soliai?

The excuses from Chiefs Planet get worse and worse.
FYP

htismaqe 03-13-2012 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8448060)
Ok, who is a better option then?
I already said Matt Cassel was the better option, at least over Orton.

htismaqe 03-13-2012 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8448063)
The way I see it is that Cassel will have 4 years in the Pioli system this year. Scott and Clark can only have so much patience. If Cassel sucks again this year, IMO, it would be hard for them to stick with him a 6th year. But, someone like Orton they could rationalize it away and turn 1 mediocre year into 3 years. Better chance of a change in QB - Cassel.
Exactly.

htismaqe 03-13-2012 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 8448064)
The problem with that of course, is that I would have to watch Cassel for another year.
So cut off your nose to spite your face...

saphojunkie 03-13-2012 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 8447909)
Say it with me folks. Tank! :P

Its going to work out okay for Indy.
Worked out better for St. Louis.

How much do the Vikings hate themselves for not losing one more game? Three first rounders and a 2nd. That's what it cost them to win a third game.

htismaqe 03-13-2012 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 8448085)
I am not advocating for Orton but I believe he is a lot better than Cassel.

In your honest opinion when you watched Orton last year could you not tell how better he ran the offense than Cassel? One of the first things I noticed was how defenses played the Chiefs with Orton at QB compared to Cassel\Palko. They actually had to respect the pass for once.
Once they got into the red zone, the offense stalled. That's been a knock on Orton his ENTIRE year.

There's also the fact that he threw for 300 yards against Green Bay and Oakland but then went to Denver and put up a Cassel-like 15-29 for 150 yards.

BigMeatballDave 03-13-2012 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8448141)
I already said Matt Cassel was the better option, at least over Orton.
LMAO Come on man

htismaqe 03-13-2012 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8448149)
LMAO Come on man
I'd MUCH rather have 1 more year of Cassel vs. 3 or 4 years of Orton.

Imon Yourside 03-13-2012 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8448169)
I'd MUCH rather have 1 more year of Cassel vs. 3 or 4 years of Orton.
How about 1 vs 1? Say Cassel is out and they realize it's a mistake, We sign Orton to a 1 year deal.

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-13-2012 11:46 AM
Paul Soliai - DL - Dolphins Profootballtalk reports free agent NT Paul Soliai is drawing interest from the Broncos, Dolphins, Chiefs, Colts, 49ers, Patriots, and Falcons.
Soliai's market may be slow until Peyton Manning picks a team, as the latter remains the top priority for at least two of those teams. The Colts are interesting fit with Chuck Pagano's new 3-4 defense. New Falcons defensive boss Mike Nolan coached Soliai in Miami.

htismaqe 03-13-2012 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 8448174)
How about 1 vs 1? Say Cassel is out and they realise it's a mistake, They sign Orton to a 1 year deal.
It's gonna depend on the dollars.

That year of Cassel is already paid for...

htismaqe 03-13-2012 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 8448174)
How about 1 vs 1? Say Cassel is out and they realise it's a mistake, They sign Orton to a 1 year deal.
Not to mention that fact that it makes ZERO logical sense to sign Orton for just 1 year.

If he is gone after year 1, that means he SUCKED and therefore we were no better off than just keeping Cassel.

If he doesn't suck, then he's gonna be here longer than 1 year.

Imon Yourside 03-13-2012 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8448186)
Not to mention that fact that it makes ZERO logical sense to sign Orton for just 1 year.

If he is gone after year 1, that means he SUCKED and therefore we were no better off than just keeping Cassel.

If he doesn't suck, then he's gonna be here longer than 1 year.
Ok 3 year deal for backup money?

Bump 03-13-2012 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8448169)
I'd MUCH rather have 1 more year of Cassel vs. 3 or 4 years of Orton.
is that the only option? 1 year of Cassel or 3 or 4 years of Orton? No, it's not. Orton is 100 times better than Cassel. He's been around and has probably learned from his experiences with different coaches and probably got better for it. Orton might be able to win us a playoff game, Cassel will never be able to do that. I'll take Orton for a year or 2 and draft Tannehill, if he makes it past Cleveland.

OnTheWarpath15 03-13-2012 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8448063)
The way I see it is that Cassel will have 4 years in the Pioli system this year. Scott and Clark can only have so much patience. If Cassel sucks again this year, IMO, it would be hard for them to stick with him a 6th year. But, someone like Orton they could rationalize it away and turn 1 mediocre year into 3 years. Better chance of a change in QB - Cassel.
Seems like we've been saying this for the last three years.

"If Cassel sucks again this year, he's gone."

Eventually, we'll all wise up and realize he's here for the long haul, and that all this talk about competition is 100% bullshit.


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