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Deberg_1990 02-19-2013 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9415605)
The top QB prospect that year Jim Drunkenmiller.

He threw 31 TDs in college. LMAO

And somehow he's compared to Geno?

Hell, there are like 4 guys who are better QB prospects this year.

useless info...but interesting..

the top Qbs taken that year turned out to be Jake Plummer 2nd, Jake Delhomme and Jon Kitna undrafted...

The Chiefs took Pat Barnes in the 4th. ROFL

Bowser 02-19-2013 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9415630)
In Teicher's latest mock, that stupid mother****er actually wrote "better safe than sorry" as a part of his justification for drafting a DT 1/1.

That's how ****ing stupid he is. As if someone who follows the Chiefs closely, allegedly, shouldn't know that there's nothing "safe" about drafting any player, much less a defensive lineman.

Why couldn't this ****ing moron have recently been vacationing in the Ural Mountains?

http://bottledgoose.net/gifs/dw_wth.gif

buddha 02-19-2013 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9415619)
I say we do a reverse draft this year. Take seventh round talent in the first, sixth in the second, and so on!

We've already tried that...the problem is that we stop at fourth round talent and go down again.

Andy Reid is NOT going to stiff us with another terrible QB, either through the draft or through free agency. Dude is silly smart...he really is. He used to be my brother's coach in college. He is also really cagey. I think Jaz's comments about trusting THIS particular guy are spot on. There are plenty of "professionals" who should have never been trusted in the past, but that's all in the past.

BigCatDaddy 02-19-2013 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 9415625)
Nice thought. But unfortunately no nfl team is stupid enough to believe these jackasses that none of the qbs in the draft aren't worth taking in the 1st round. They will all be scooped up. If kc misses the boat then they were just stupid.

Sarcasm meter...

RealSNR 02-19-2013 12:40 PM

I thought you all should know that Knowmo is slightly cheating on his self-imposed bet ban. He sent me a rep message with a tweet from some guy that said if the draft were this year, Brock Osweiler would be a first round pick, and possibly the first QB taken or some shit like that.

That's bullshit. Geno, Barkley, and Glennon have nearly twice the starting experience in college that Tannehill and Osweiler did. If Osweiler would have been the top QB this year it's because he played like it, not because he's a tall ****er who could be the best QB ever if he could ever learn how to throw the ball correctly, dang it.

It's takes like that that make my blood boil. If this were 2012, Geno and Barkley are the 3rd and 4th QBs taken before Tannehill, Weeden, and Osweiler. To say otherwise that those guys without the starting experience nor the flashy stats would be ahead of 2013's QBs is an atrocious lie.

That's why posters like jAz are posting some stupid crap, because they say, "How can we know if these guys are any good? All the draft experts claim the QBs are terrible." It compares these QBs at the top to 2012's QBs at the top without looking at the rest of the class.

Bowser 02-19-2013 12:41 PM

Between Athan and Teicher, the Chiefs have been set back 40 years.

ChiefsCountry 02-19-2013 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jAZ (Post 9415409)
Looking back, they had the same success. And as a result, Matt Cassel was factually a better investment even looking back.

4 playoff wins and two AFC Championship apperances say you are wrong like always.

htismaqe 02-19-2013 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by buddha (Post 9415641)
There are plenty of "professionals" who should have never been trusted in the past, but that's all in the past.

I'd absolutely LOVE to believe that.

But there's been too much failure, for too long.

Andy Reid is going to have to prove it to me.

The Franchise 02-19-2013 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jAZ (Post 9415626)
I heard a guy (don't recall his name) from Ourlads on the radio the other day saying that he had Geno Smith #1 on his board.

Edit: I'm sure others have already seen it, but anyway...
http://www.ourlads.com/nfl-mock-draft/2013/

The only part of that mock that I question is Joeckel to the Jags at #2.

Hammock Parties 02-19-2013 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by buddha (Post 9415641)
Dude is silly smart...he really is. He used to be my brother's coach in college. He is also really cagey.

At Missouri?

But anyway, I don't really care.

Bill Parcells is "smart." He thought it was a good idea to pick Chad Henne instead of Matt Ryan.

jAZ 02-19-2013 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9415645)
I thought you all should know that Knowmo is slightly cheating on his self-imposed bet ban. He sent me a rep message with a tweet from some guy that said if the draft were this year, Brock Osweiler would be a first round pick, and possibly the first QB taken or some shit like that.

That's bullshit. Geno, Barkley, and Glennon have nearly twice the starting experience in college that Tannehill and Osweiler did. If Osweiler would have been the top QB this year it's because he played like it, not because he's a tall ****er who could be the best QB ever if he could ever learn how to throw the ball correctly, dang it.

It's takes like that that make my blood boil. If this were 2012, Geno and Barkley are the 3rd and 4th QBs taken before Tannehill, Weeden, and Osweiler. To say otherwise that those guys without the starting experience nor the flashy stats would be ahead of 2013's QBs is an atrocious lie.

That's why posters like jAz are posting some stupid crap, because they say, "How can we know if these guys are any good? All the draft experts claim the QBs are terrible." It compares these QBs at the top to 2012's QBs at the top without looking at the rest of the class.

I'm not saying that. I'm saying "no one can *know*". So in the absence of a time machine, recognize that professionals have tools to make evaluations that none of us have. Don't take fandom-GM games very seriously.

Hammock Parties 02-19-2013 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jAZ (Post 9415656)
Don't take fandom-GM games very seriously.

We don't play games anymore.

We got the last asshole fired.

We're a ****ing force to be reckoned with now.

tooge 02-19-2013 12:46 PM

Regarding Alex Smith, I see him as a Rich Gannon type. He flounders around for several years without success, then finally "gets it". About the time he "gets it", he's taken on by a young, motivated, innovative offensive mind that has an offense tailored exactly to his skills. He thrives in it. I don't want Alex Smith. I don't think hes the abortion of a qb that some here do. I think he could come here and have us winning 10 or 11 games with Andy Reid, and heck, maybe a playoff game or two. That isn't what I want though.

I want the upside of Geno Smith. I wanna see his spectacular accuracy deployed in Andy Reids west coast offense, where he should thrive. I want a higher ceiling than I feel we'd get with Alex Smith.

If it doesn't pan out? Well, at least they tried. Then you try again.

Deberg_1990 02-19-2013 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9415654)
Bill Parcells is "smart." He thought it was a good idea to pick Chad Henne instead of Matt Ryan.

but he did take Bledsoe over Roaf.

htismaqe 02-19-2013 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tooge (Post 9415661)
Regarding Alex Smith, I see him as a Rich Gannon type. He flounders around for several years without success, then finally "gets it". About the time he "gets it", he's taken on by a young, motivated, innovative offensive mind that has an offense tailored exactly to his skills. He thrives in it. I don't want Alex Smith. I don't think hes the abortion of a qb that some here do. I think he could come here and have us winning 10 or 11 games with Andy Reid, and heck, maybe a playoff game or two. That isn't what I want though.

I want the upside of Geno Smith. I wanna see his spectacular accuracy deployed in Andy Reids west coast offense, where he should thrive. I want a higher ceiling than I feel we'd get with Alex Smith.

If it doesn't pan out? Well, at least they tried. Then you try again.

Great post.


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