Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 9785149)

(Personal opinion here - not stats.) The other issue I see is that most burglaries are intended to steal shit, not to kill people. While some burglars may carry a weapon in case they end up having to confront people, their primary intent is to steal things of value. Even when confronted, most aren't going to immediately want to kill someone if they don't have to. They'll make threats, they'll point a gun at you, but they're not going to pull a trigger unless they're really feeling threatened. And a homeowner pointing a gun at someone is decidedly threatening.

Will you get to them first? Maybe. But there's a good chance shots wouldn't have been fired in the first place had the homeowner not gone in guns blazing.

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 9784790)

To be clear, I'm not talking about owning a gun in general (and keeping it in a garage, etc.). If you want to own guns for hunting, fun, or in case of some sort of all-out war, more power to you.

I'm specifically talking about having one in the house for self-defense, and I'd think most people don't really enjoy shooting one in their house (except possibly frazod).

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9785264)

I will say that a large majority of the home invasion cases are drug or drug money related cases but aren't always stated that way simply because the victims aren't going to throw themselves under the bus about owing someone drugs/money.

If someone comes into my house looking to steal shit, I would much rather have them take whatever they want and leave without it having to get violent. Nothing I own is irreplaceable. While I own a gun, I think violence should still be the last option if that person is solely there to steal items. Threaten me or my family and it is a much different story.

Originally Posted by Psyko Tek (Post 9784246)

I don't have any shit worth stealing
and that has worked out so far

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9785264)

I will say that a large majority of the home invasion cases are drug or drug money related cases but aren't always stated that way simply because the victims aren't going to throw themselves under the bus about owing someone drugs/money.

If someone comes into my house looking to steal shit, I would much rather have them take whatever they want and leave without it having to get violent. Nothing I own is irreplaceable. While I own a gun, I think violence should still be the last option if that person is solely there to steal items. Threaten me or my family and it is a much different story.

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9785264)

I will say that a large majority of the home invasion cases are drug or drug money related cases but aren't always stated that way simply because the victims aren't going to throw themselves under the bus about owing someone drugs/money.

If someone comes into my house looking to steal shit, I would much rather have them take whatever they want and leave without it having to get violent. Nothing I own is irreplaceable. While I own a gun, I think violence should still be the last option if that person is solely there to steal items. Threaten me or my family and it is a much different story.

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9785200)

How bout your pretty wife there with you while you are negotiating with someone in your house with a gun... What ya gonna do when he tells your wife to get naked and come over there and suck his dick?

You aren't gonna tell him shit because if you do you are dead... And you still may be dead and her too soon after he finishes with your wife...

Sound harsh?

Think about it.

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9785272)

They come to steal your gun too... Just hand it to them when they walk in

Originally Posted by Fairplay (Post 9785354)

Hold on criminal let me get my gun. :shake:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9785264)

I will say that a large majority of the home invasion cases are drug or drug money related cases but aren't always stated that way simply because the victims aren't going to throw themselves under the bus about owing someone drugs/money.

If someone comes into my house looking to steal shit, I would much rather have them take whatever they want and leave without it having to get violent. Nothing I own is irreplaceable. While I own a gun, I think violence should still be the last option if that person is solely there to steal items. Threaten me or my family and it is a much different story.

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9785397)

The problem is, when they come in, you don't know what they're after.

There really isn't a simple answer as to how to best handle the situation.

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9785403)

Come through a locked door in NC and you are bought and paid for no matter what your intentions are..

You have No duty to retreat