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GoChargers 11-21-2013 07:26 PM

Put David Tyree in the Hall of Fame! He has a ring and had that amazing helmet catch, that means he's "transcendent!" /Dane

DaneMcCloud 11-21-2013 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 10210594)
You're just seeing what you want to see.

And I can absolutely guarantee you that as a SoCal resident since 1993, I saw LaDanian Tomlinson in more games, likely at least tenfold, than you.

And I can say, without a shred of a doubt, that I was not as impressed by his play on the field as his stats indicate. He doesn't pass the eye test, IMO, like a Barry Sanders, Emmit Smith or even Priest Holmes.

DaneMcCloud 11-21-2013 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 10210609)
Put David Tyree in the Hall of Fame! He has a ring and had that amazing helmet catch, that means he's "transcendent!" /Dane

**** off, Dummy.

Jesus.

LMAO

DJ's left nut 11-21-2013 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 10210606)
Bullshit.

First off, Will Shields was a Pro Bowler 12 of his 14 seasons, an 8 time All Pro and an NFL Man of the Year. His level of play is unique and unquestioned.

Tony Gonzalez has more catches than anyone in NFL history other than Jerry Rice. He was the first of new breed of tight ends and is a 13 time Pro Bowler that's still an effective player 17 years into his playing career.

LaDanian Tomlinson was a very good running back on a team with many offensive weapons and an "Elite" QB (two, if you count Brees). His teams never won an AFC Championship and by the time he actually played in two AFC Championships, his skills had begun to erode.

While I think he was an excellent player in his era, I do not believe that he is a Hall of Famer.

Nothing that you say can change my mind.

Clearly.

But as I've said 1000 times over - I'm not in it to change the minds of the militantly entrenched. All I can do is speak to those that will listen.

OnTheWarpath15 11-21-2013 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 10210323)
Agreed - Bettis was an animal.

My 5:

Greene
Bettis
Shields
Haley
Brooks

Agreed.

Charles Haley has eight votes so far.

Laughable.

GoChargers 11-21-2013 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 10210606)
Tony Gonzalez has more catches than anyone in NFL history other than Jerry Rice.

And LT holds the record for most single-season rushing touchdowns and is second only to Emmitt Smith for most career rushing touchdowns. Neither has a ring. Hell, Gonzalez didn't even win a playoff game until he was 36 years old.

How is one any more "transcendent" than the other? Let me guess the real reason: Gonzalez was a Chief for most of his career, LT was on a division rival.

DaneMcCloud 11-21-2013 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 10210627)
And LT holds the record for most single-season rushing touchdowns and is second only to Emmitt Smith for most career rushing touchdowns. Neither has a ring. Hell, Gonzalez didn't even win a playoff game until he was 36 years old.

How is one any more "transcendent" than the other? Let me guess the real reason: Gonzalez was a Chief for most of his career, LT was on a division rival.

Whatever, Dude. I never said he wouldn't get into the Hall of Fame; I said I wouldn't vote for him.

And, I've given several reasons why I wouldn't vote for him, regardless of your stats.

DaneMcCloud 11-21-2013 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 10210621)
Clearly.

But as I've said 1000 times over - I'm not in it to change the minds of the militantly entrenched. All I can do is speak to those that will listen.

Gee, I'm sorry I based my opinion on dozens of San Diego games I watched over the years, some of which were actually in San Diego, in their stadium.

:rolleyes:

DJ's left nut 11-21-2013 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 10210638)
Gee, I'm sorry I based my opinion on dozens of San Diego games I watched over the years, some of which were actually in San Diego, in their stadium.

:rolleyes:

Well I guess that's better than "I'm older", so you're clearly progressing.

He's going to the Hall. Period. He's probably going to go in within the first 3 ballots, if not the first.

But I'm sure your opinion will be far more knowledgeable than those guys...

DaneMcCloud 11-21-2013 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 10210641)
Well I guess that's better than "I'm older", so you're clearly progressing.

Thanks for acting like a dick. And that's not what I said, Dick.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 10210641)
He's going to the Hall. Period. He's probably going to go in within the first 3 ballots, if not the first.

But I'm sure your opinion will be far more knowledgeable than those guys...

My "opinion" will be far more "knowledgeable"? That doesn't even make sense.

DJ's left nut 11-21-2013 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10210622)
Agreed.

Charles Haley has eight votes so far.

Laughable.

Yeah, the Haley thing is confounding.

That guy was one of the first player I recall watching and just being amazed by how clearly physically superior he was to everyone else on the field.

If we're counting rings, Haley was a five time SB champion and likely the best player on the defense for at least 4 of those. Haley to the Cowboys may have done as much to swing the balance of power in the NFC as anything.

DJ's left nut 11-21-2013 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 10210659)
My "opinion" will be far more "knowledgeable"? That doesn't even make sense.

Ah I see, now we're moving on to grammar police; I guess plugging your ears and sticking out your tongue got tiresome. This is a better look for you.

My apologies. I'm sure your opinion will be more informed than the HoF selection committee's will be.

DaneMcCloud 11-21-2013 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 10210673)
Ah I see, now we're moving on to grammar police; I guess plugging your ears and sticking out your tongue got tiresome. This is a better look for you.

My apologies. I'm sure your opinion will be more informed than the HoF selection committee's will be.

Jesus, you're acting like a dickhead tonight. Rough day in court?

Kingsburg#12 11-21-2013 08:36 PM

The HOF is a colossal waste of time and arguing about it with some overweight slob living in his mom's basement is pointless. Academy awards, Emmy's, Avn's, CMA's, PRO Bowls, All Star games are time occupiers for people with no life and no personal accomplishments. Their biggest achievement was finishing 1st on a Battlefield 4 level.
Opinions from a douche that has Andre Reed's pole in his throat are worthless.

ClevelandBronco 11-21-2013 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 10209551)
...Terrell Davis...

Never. Too short a career.

Don't bother bringing up Sayers.


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