Originally Posted by wazu (Post 10540917)

Doesn't matter. It's all a ****ing joke anyway, can't care anymore.

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10541529)

When was the last time the Chiefs had a late round pick "progress" into an NFL starter or some sort of capable full time player?

You have to go back to 2008 in that draft we ended up pissing away the entire core/window and say 5th round pick Brandon Carr

so 6 years later, we are banking on late round picks Catapano, Commings, Kush, ****ing even third round picks like Kelce to step and save the Chiefs. When it hasn't happened in SIX ****ING YEARS. But now all of a sudden in 2014 it's going to? Based on what? false hope? grasping at straws? Hoping Dorsey is a genius? He very well could be, but the fact that he has no insurance policy if this fails and blows up in his face and the fans again turn on another front office in the span of less than 10 years.

How else are they going to save face/spin it if they have a losing season in 2014? There's no excuse if they don't have a winning record with Alex Smith. They sat on their hands and did nothing to improve the roster. So I'm not going to be happy with 8-8 or 9-7 in 2014 and say "hey we did well against a tough schedule and we will have a lot of comp picks now for 2015! See 2014 wasnt a waste we are going to be like Seattle! Seattle! Seattle!"

**** off with that crap

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10541521)

I don't think it was a PR move at all.

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10540997)

we still did next to nothing in free agency.

If we decided that all those guys weren't good enough then we should have replaced them in free agency. Our backups couldn't beat all those 'sucky' guys out of their starting jobs last year but now we expect them to be better than the guys they couldn't win a job from?

Regardless of how you want to spin it, last year and this year represent conflicting philosophies. Last year was a 'add talent wherever/whenever you can to win game'. This year is 'patiently build for the future and avoid spending big money on old guys'.

flip-flopping between philosophies is not a good idea, it almost always ends in failure.

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 10541242)

they see this year as a throwaway year.

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10541529)

When was the last time the Chiefs had a late round pick "progress" into an NFL starter or some sort of capable full time player?

You have to go back to 2008 in that draft we ended up pissing away the entire core/window and say 5th round pick Brandon Carr

so 6 years later, we are banking on late round picks Catapano, Commings, Kush, ****ing even third round picks like Kelce to step and save the Chiefs. When it hasn't happened in SIX ****ING YEARS. But now all of a sudden in 2014 it's going to? Based on what? false hope? grasping at straws? Hoping Dorsey is a genius? He very well could be, but the fact that he has no insurance policy if this fails and blows up in his face and the fans again turn on another front office in the span of less than 10 years.

How else are they going to save face/spin it if they have a losing season in 2014? There's no excuse if they don't have a winning record with Alex Smith. They sat on their hands and did nothing to improve the roster. So I'm not going to be happy with 8-8 or 9-7 in 2014 and say "hey we did well against a tough schedule and we will have a lot of comp picks now for 2015! See 2014 wasnt a waste we are going to be like Seattle! Seattle! Seattle!"

**** off with that crap

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10541608)

I couldn't have said this any better.. Though I'm not angry at this point. I'm just disappointed that the team has handicapped themselves from rebuilding properly by delaying the process multiple seasons.

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10541624)

Dude, they are building properly.

Finally.

Dorsey has a literal army of scouts working for the team. There's two coaches at every position. They've hired some of the best position coaches in the league.

This is not Pioli trying to do the scouting, managing and personnel all by himself. This is not Peterson signing one impact player every five years, filling the gaps with overpriced free agents and then heading to Aruba.

These guys are going about it the best way possible.

It's going to take time.

Relax.

Have fun.

Enjoy what comes from it, but don't expect Super Bowl in year two of a rebuild that was coming off the worst four year stretch in franchise history.

****.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10541617)

So theres no excuse if they don't have a winning record, yet you'd be pissed with 9-7?

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 10541627)

Finally. About time. /Herm in '08

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10541286)

So several of us who were very unhappy last year came back after the playoff loss and apologized. We were wrong about Alex Smith. 11-5 was the proof.

If this team wins 5 or 6 games, are all of you guys that think this is great going to do what we did? Or do we have to wait one more year?

Originally Posted by Douche Baggins (Post 10541638)

We can draft a QB after Alex retires, just wait a little longer!

Hopefully the most wonderful perfect prospect will come out that year so we can feel justified in blowing a first rounder on a QB!

You don't want to draft the next Ryan Leaf! It could set your franchise back years!