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mcaj22 05-06-2014 10:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10606181)
Here's the question...

Would you trade

Berry

for

Haha Clinton Dix/Jimmy Ward/Calvin Pryor + Devante Adams/Donte Moncrief/Jared Abbredis + another 7 million to spend on other free agents?

If somebody offers a first and third for him, that's the discussion we are having.
the problem is the NFL is very tight with draft picks. Who was the last person traded for a first and third? Jared Allen in 2008 I can think of, and that was 6 years ago. Doesnt happen that often

BossChief 05-06-2014 11:29 PM
I was just using tat set of picks as an example because it had been mentioned.

IMO we would be lucky to get a first for him.

Lets say we would get a first for him and use the pick to select Jimmy Ward/Haha Clinton Dix/Calvin Pryor

One of those guys plus 8 million to spend in free agency (the difference between what Berry will cost and what a first round pick costs)

If we could turn Berry into something like

TJ Ward and Jimmy Ward, I'd be willing to listen.

OldSchool 05-07-2014 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10606256)
He didn't disappear. What pass rusher is going to get to the QB when he knows to target Cooper and Lewis the instant the ball is snapped? Not to knock on Cooper, because he will get better, but the first season he had a bullseye on his back.
What teams did to us in the second half of the season was simple.

Double team Poe in the middle.

Force Hali and Houston to rush wide.

Single block our ineffective 4th man on the DL.

Go for quick hitting routes and throw it deep against our inexperienced guy in Cooper or anyone that Lewis is lined up against.

Chiefs=Champions 05-07-2014 12:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10606545)
I was just using tat set of picks as an example because it had been mentioned.

IMO we would be lucky to get a first for him.

Lets say we would get a first for him and use the pick to select Jimmy Ward/Haha Clinton Dix/Calvin Pryor

One of those guys plus 8 million to spend in free agency (the difference between what Berry will cost and what a first round pick costs)

If we could turn Berry into something like

TJ Ward and Jimmy Ward, I'd be willing to listen.
You are mad.

Coochie liquor 05-07-2014 04:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 10604915)
Who gives a sh8t what dorsey likes lol... the way reid turned this offense around was miraculous... does anyone remember the 3 and out days of todd haley?
And Herm Edwards, and Romeo Crennel....

TEX 05-07-2014 05:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10604761)
@TerezPaylor: One thing to keep in mind about a Berry trade: #Chiefs GM John Dorsey told me Friday that there are a lot of good box safeties in this draft


Well...
Dorsey, like most GM's at this time, likes most everything...

TambaBerry 05-07-2014 07:33 AM
No **** this stupid ass trade Berry bullshit.

Bowser 05-07-2014 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10606690)
No **** this stupid ass trade Berry bullshit.
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RunKC 05-07-2014 07:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10606545)
I was just using tat set of picks as an example because it had been mentioned.

IMO we would be lucky to get a first for him.

Lets say we would get a first for him and use the pick to select Jimmy Ward/Haha Clinton Dix/Calvin Pryor

One of those guys plus 8 million to spend in free agency (the difference between what Berry will cost and what a first round pick costs)

If we could turn Berry into something like

TJ Ward and Jimmy Ward, I'd be willing to listen.
No. Go **** yourself with an AIDS dildo and shut the **** up!!!!!

milkman 05-07-2014 08:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steron (Post 10604902)
You can get by with average secondary play if you can put pressure on the passer.
Do you watch football?

milkman 05-07-2014 08:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10606567)
What teams did to us in the second half of the season was simple.

Double team Poe in the middle.

Force Hali and Houston to rush wide.

Single block our ineffective 4th man on the DL.

Go for quick hitting routes and throw it deep against our inexperienced guy in Cooper or anyone that Lewis is lined up against.
I really haven't chimed in about Cooper, but the fact is, he was almost always in pretty good position when he was getting picked on.

The failure was almost always the fact that he he had no help over the top.

the Talking Can 05-07-2014 08:17 AM
trade our all-pro safety...so that we can draft a safety


we are the chiefs

OldSchool 05-07-2014 08:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10606754)
I really haven't chimed in about Cooper, but the fact is, he was almost always in pretty good position when he was getting picked on.

The failure was almost always the fact that he he had no help over the top.
Yeah, but sometimes he would lose track of his guy and kind of fall off when he was locked up going deep. That was especially evident against Decker and Thomas; he did the same things earlier in the season a few times but those QBs didn't have anywhere near the same precision and timing that Manning or Rivers had. The encouraging thing to me though, is that I think he did improve after that slump in play. He's one of the few rookies from last season that I would be confident in saying that he will definitely be an improved player in 2014.

The other two would be Eric Fisher and Knile Davis. I like Catapano but I want to see him steal more snaps and I'm not quite sure how he'll carry his extra 20+ pounds. Kelce and Commings are a toss up at this point.

milkman 05-07-2014 08:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10606787)
Yeah, but sometimes he would lose track of his guy and kind of fall off when he was locked up going deep. That was especially evident against Decker and Thomas; he did the same things earlier in the season a few times but those QBs didn't have anywhere near the same precision and timing that Manning or Rivers had. The encouraging thing to me though, is that I think he did improve after that slump in play. He's one of the few rookies from last season that I would be confident in saying that he will definitely be an improved player in 2014.
There are a couple of times when he did lose track, but that was really no more than a handful of plays.

Anyong Bluth 05-07-2014 08:41 AM
If they trade him I'm immediately chalking next year up to Could Give a ****.


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