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RunKC 10-31-2014 12:28 PM

Alex was easily worth those picks, especially considering that the QB's drafted the last 2 years don't look special at all.

You get the best player to win. Alex was clearly that. And even without a 2nd the 2013 class looks really solid at the top

Easy 6 10-31-2014 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 11073571)
Genocuses

LMAO whats good for the goose...

GoChargers 10-31-2014 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 11073096)
Chiefs Planet is awful at evaluating QB play. Just unbelievably bad....End of thread and every other one like it

That goes for both sides, by the way. The drafturbators do themselves no favors by dickriding obvious busts from day 1 like Geno Smith; meanwhile, the true fans literally defend scrubs like Cassel until they can no longer be defended by any rational human being.

Reerun_KC 10-31-2014 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 11073602)
That goes for both sides, by the way. The drafturbators do themselves no favors by dickriding obvious busts from day 1 like Geno Smith; meanwhile, the true fans literally defend scrubs like Cassel until they can no longer be defended by any rational human being.


That is what he just said...

CP is dogshit when it comes to QB evaluation....

ChiefsCountry 10-31-2014 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11073589)
Alex was easily worth those picks, especially considering that the QB's drafted the last 2 years don't look special at all.

You get the best player to win. Alex was clearly that. And even without a 2nd the 2013 class looks really solid at the top

Hey look its Mr. Tyler Wilson trying to act like he didn't want to draft somebody.

O.city 10-31-2014 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 11073630)
Hey look its Mr. Tyler Wilson trying to act like he didn't want to draft somebody.

Weren't you matt Barkley biggest fan?

ChiefsCountry 10-31-2014 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11073645)
Weren't you matt Barkley biggest fan?

Yes, still wish they would have drafted him. But that douche was deep throating Tyler Wilson hard and acts like he didn't want to draft a qb. So **** him.

ThaVirus 10-31-2014 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 11072964)
Every time someone mentions Alex as a QB who knows how to win when he's got 1 playoff win in 10 years I throw up in my mouth.


"Well he had shitty coaches and talent around him for his first 5 seasons!"

"He was one muffed punt away from the Super Bowl!"

"He played well enough to win last year in Indy!"

Apparently all those shoulda, coulda, wouldas count as playoff wins.

RunKC 10-31-2014 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 11073630)
Hey look its Mr. Tyler Wilson trying to act like he didn't want to draft somebody.

I wanted to draft Tyler Wilson for later and trade Alex smith for the present. But okay.

Bearcat 10-31-2014 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11073674)
"Well he had shitty coaches and talent around him for his first 5 seasons!"

"He was one muffed punt away from the Super Bowl!"

"He played well enough to win last year in Indy!"

Apparently all those shoulda, coulda, wouldas count as playoff wins.

Alex Smith has been the victim of circumstance his entire career.
Geno Smith obviously sucks and has no one to blame but himself.

Facts.

Marcellus 10-31-2014 01:09 PM

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The same idiots here are going to attempt to claim that Clark "won't allow" his very high paid hand picked coach and GM to draft a QB if they wanted to.
And bingo.

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11073307)
No first round QBs since Blackledge in 1983.
No second round QBs since Matt Bludnin 1992.
Brodie Croyle in the 3rd round in 2006.
Pat Barnes in the 4th in 1997.
Aaron Murray and Ricky Stanzi in the 5th in 2014 and 2011 respectively.


There's all the evidence in the world that if the gun was put to any given Chiefs' GM's head, he doesn't select a QB.

Because that gun is being held by a member of the Hunt family, and they believe a high round QB is too risky.


Marcellus 10-31-2014 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11073370)
It was only a chance to select Justin Hunter, Zach Ertz, Giovanni Bernard, Kiko Alonso or Le'Veon Bell in 2013 and Cody Latimer, Jimmy Garoppolo or Allen Robinson in 2014.

Not like any of those guys would help or anything.

Who is playing QB if we don't give 2 2nds for Smith and draft the guys you mentioned?

Or are you one of those insiders that know we could have Smith for 1 pick?

I am sure Dorsey threw in the 2nd pick for fun.

Marcellus 10-31-2014 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11073674)
"Well he had shitty coaches and talent around him for his first 5 seasons!"

"He was one muffed punt away from the Super Bowl!"

"He played well enough to win last year in Indy!"

Apparently all those shoulda, coulda, wouldas count as playoff wins.

Or you could just call them the facts.

Playoff wins or not, they are facts.

ThaVirus 10-31-2014 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 11073724)
Or you could just call them the facts.

Playoff wins or not, they are facts.


I like to think of myself as a rational guy when it comes to Alex. I probably come off as a detractor but it's really only because he's my QB and I hold him to a high standard.

We've already dispelled the notion that he was just a muffed punt away from a Super Bowl, and he played well in Indy but didn't turn in a complete game. People like to rag on Bowe for not getting his foot down but if you want to go that far the pass was NOT perfect. It was thrown a hit behind, causing Bowe to have to slow up and allowing the defender a chance to make a play on the ball. Not to mention the fact that we had three downs prior to that play to get the 1st and he couldn't get the job done.

Marcellus 10-31-2014 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11073736)
I like to think of myself as a rational guy when it comes to Alex. I probably come off as a detractor but it's really only because he's my QB and I hold him to a high standard.

We've already dispelled the notion that he was just a muffed punt away from a Super Bowl, and he played well in Indy but didn't turn in a complete game. People like to rag on Bowe for not getting his foot down but if you want to go that far the pass was NOT perfect. It was thrown a hit behind, causing Bowe to have to slow up and allowing the defender a chance to make a play on the ball. Not to mention the fact that we had three downs prior to that play to get the 1st and he couldn't get the job done.

Good grief dude you are as impartial and opinionated on this subject as 49ers fans are.

And to say any of that stuff has been dispelled is laughable. Its all opinion driven. For every statement made there is a counter opinion. Its not dispelled in any way shape or form. Maybe in your mind but you didn't need any help there anyway.

Its OK to simply admit you are wrong when the evidence keep slapping you in the face. But some people just can't do it.


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