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FloridaMan88 01-19-2015 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 11280104)
He traded for Matt Schaub... I don't understand why people think Elway's backup will pose a threat to us. I'm thrilled this was the hire, if it were Gase I would've been more afraid than fuggin Kubiak.

Kubiak also essentially chose Matt Schaub over the opportunity to try to sign Peyton Manning:

Last week from Mike Florio:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...eyton-manning/

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As the Broncos begin to look for a new head coach who will be accepting a job that comes with an annual Super-Bowl-or-bust mandate, one of the potential candidates is a guy who recently said he won’t be a candidate for any job.

Ravens offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak, before becoming coach of the Texans in 2006, served as offensive coordinator of the Broncos. As a player, he spent nine years with the Broncos and quarterback (now G.M.) John Elway. Vic Lombardi of CBS4 in Denver, appearing on Wednesday’s PFT Live on NBC Sports Radio, explained that Kubiak is a viable candidate.

If Kubiak alters his not-this-year stance and ultimately becomes coach of the Broncos, a couple of awkward wrinkles could emerge.

First, Kubiak’s offense requires periodic quarterback mobility, for example when one of the various rollout pass plays are called. Obviously, that wouldn’t necessarily work with the largely immobile Peyton Manning.

Second, in Houston Kubiak coached the one team that Manning was interested in joining three years ago, but that wasn’t interested in Manning. And Peyton has a long memory; he wanted to play for the Texans, the Texans weren’t interested, and Kubiak’s fingerprints reside somewhere on that decision.

Yes, the Texans and Kubiak opted to stick with Matt Schaub over Peyton Manning. Matt Schaub. Matt. Schaub.

Peyton would have to get past that one before working with Kubiak.

And Peyton will have input in the hire. Elway already has said so. For any other quarterback in any other circumstance, that would prompt plenty of criticism. The mere fact that Manning has that kind of power makes the job even more challenging that it otherwise would be — especially if Peyton enters 2015 with the mindset that this will be his last shot at trying to win that elusive second Super Bowl.

FloridaMan88 01-19-2015 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 11279981)
Peyton will learn Kubiaks zone offense.

Manning at age 39 is going to learn how to be mobile?

Explain.

Rausch 01-19-2015 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 11280389)
Manning at age 39 is going to learn how to be mobile?

Explain.

He'll get the **** out...

ILChief 01-19-2015 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11280256)
You don't hire the "Kub" to run Manning's anything.

He's gone.

If anything a WCO would without a doubt benefit 5-head but I see no way he just signs on.

Elway is FORCING THIS...

I think denver wants Fivehead to retire so they don't have to pay him $20 mil to be a shell of himself. If they wanted manning back, they would have hired Gase

Rausch 01-19-2015 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 11280403)
I think denver wants Fivehead to retire so they don't have to pay him $20 mil to be a shell of himself. If they wanted manning back, they would have hired Gase

This.

He's out...

DaneMcCloud 01-19-2015 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 11280104)
He traded for Matt Schaub... I don't understand why people think Elway's backup will pose a threat to us. I'm thrilled this was the hire, if it were Gase I would've been more afraid than fuggin Kubiak.

Kubiak didn't trade for anyone. The owner gave Rick Smith the approval to trade for Schaub.

Also, Kubiak did something in the past five years in Houston that no coach or team has been able to do in KC for more than 20 years: Win a playoff game.

Actually, he won two.

Imon Yourside 01-19-2015 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 11279301)
Who knows at this point? They're moving on and if Peyton decides to walk away, while I'd hate it, it's going to happen at some point very soon ... I think that's the mentality here.

Hoyer, Ryan Mallet ... those are two guys I'd target for a 1 year fix, considering all the other options out there until you can draft a QB or pick up your QBoTF via trade, etc.

Again, I think Manning comes back... those two can co-exist and win for a year. This is a move for 'after Manning', but we don't know if that's now or next year.

Either way, I'm fine with Fox and company being gone - the team was just too lethargic down the stretch.

Alex Smith can be had for the right price and would fit the bootleg offense quite well.. 2 firsts?

FloridaMan88 01-19-2015 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11280420)
Also, Kubiak did something in the past five years in Houston that no coach or team has been able to do in KC for more than 20 years: Win a playoff game. Actually, he won two.

Both playoff wins against the Cincinnati Bengals… one of only two franchises that has a longer playoff winless drought than the Chiefs.

Imon Yourside 01-19-2015 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 11280427)
Both playoff wins against the Cincinnati Bengals… one of only two franchises that has a longer playoff winless drought than the Chiefs.

LMAO and CMAO yes Crying...oh noz.

Chief Roundup 01-19-2015 02:30 PM

When I think of Kubiak when he was with the Texans I think of running the football first and foremost with the pass coming from the run, followed by playing good defense. Run first is not Manning.

nychief 01-19-2015 03:08 PM

The take away here is that this seems like a wash, At best, of a hire.... So it had to be personal with elway and fox or Peyton.....

BigMeatballDave 01-19-2015 03:12 PM

I'll worry about Kubiak when I find out who his QB is.

MagicHef 01-19-2015 03:34 PM

I can't believe people are saying that Manning is so immobile that he can't run a bootleg PA. The entire point of the bootleg is that the RB and all of his blockers are moving laterally in one direction, and the QB, after faking the handoff, is moving the other direction. Literally anyone can outrun people who are running the opposite direction.

Will Manning be back? I don't know, but I do know that him not being able to run Kubiak's offense is a stupid reason for him to be gone.

DaneMcCloud 01-19-2015 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 11280572)
Will Manning be back? I don't know, but I do know that him not being able to run Kubiak's offense is a stupid reason for him to be gone.

Manning is a pocket passer. He's 39 years old with four neck fusions. The last thing he'll want to do is be met head on by linebackers and defensive ends while rolling out. That would be foolish.

The main reason why he's had success is due to his quick release while protected in the pocket. You take that away from him, especially coupled with his weakened arm and poor mobility, he's not even close to being the same QB.

MagicHef 01-19-2015 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11280579)
Manning is a pocket passer. He's 39 years old with four neck fusions. The last thing he'll want to do is be met head on by linebackers and defensive ends while rolling out. That would be foolish.

The main reason why he's had success is due to his quick release while protected in the pocket. You take that away from him, especially coupled with his weakened arm and poor mobility, he's not even close to being the same QB.

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