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KCCHIEFS27 03-28-2015 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11408179)
Mack Brown? Dude won the NC and won a few other BCS bowls. How can you call that underachieving? Compared to Nick Saban or Urban Meyer sure. But compared to the other 99% of guys, hardly.

Wait..are you kidding? This coming from the man that complains constantly about Bill Self. The guy who has won a NC and been to the final four. Compared to 99% of the other coaches, the guy is incredible.

cmh6476 03-28-2015 11:30 PM

I wish our basketball team was good :(

Imon Yourside 03-29-2015 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 11406513)
Rick Barnes stepping down as soon as Monday. And Steve Lavin is out as St. John's head coach.

Great Lavin back to the booth, great announcer. :D

Prison Bitch 03-29-2015 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 11408767)
I wish our basketball team was good :(

KU is very good. ~12th or so in the nation out of 351 teams. They're just not a contender this year. The run Cal is on is pretty remarkable right now but they're about to take a major hit in the NBA draft.

Mr_Tomahawk 03-29-2015 06:04 PM

@BruceFeldmnCFb: BREAKING:Wichita State head coach Greg Marshall to accept the Alabama coaching job.Marshall's deal 6/$25 million. Buyout set @ 5 million

Silock 03-29-2015 06:09 PM

^ Fake Twitter account.

Prison Bitch 03-29-2015 06:09 PM

Pitino 12-1 in sweet 16s, izzo in another FF (despite having a team so pedestrian they lost to us this year) and K now 12-2 in Elite 8 games.

Poor bill self. It's all just a crapshoot

TambaBerry 03-29-2015 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11409729)
Pitino 12-1 in sweet 16s, izzo in another FF (despite having a team so pedestrian they lost to us this year) and K now 12-2 in Elite 8 games.

Poor bill self. It's all just a crapshoot

I fully believe it's selfs system, he doesn't need the one and dones because they're not good for his system. He needs to recognize guys who are a good fit that are still highly ranked and go for them or what I wish he would do is change is offense.

Silock 03-29-2015 06:17 PM

His offense is fine. He just needs the right guys for it. Didn't have that this year. But I'm with you -- if you don't have those guys, you have to change the offense.

Mr. Laz 03-29-2015 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 11408767)
I wish our basketball team was good :(

KU is good every single year.


You just got to stop expecting elite.

25+ wins each year
competing for a conference regular season championship every year
solid in the conference tourney each year
top 15 team ranked each year
makes the ncaa tourney each year
National profile basketball school

Be happy with Marty Shott .... Bill Self, things could be much,much worse.

Mr. Laz 03-29-2015 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 11409741)
His offense is fine. He just needs the right guys for it. Didn't have that this year. But I'm with you -- if you don't have those guys, you have to change the offense.

his offense is stank ass

at least the way he runs it

Self is too predictable in just about everything he does.

Predictability allows teams with less talent to "aim" what talent they do have at a stationary target and have the best chance for an upset.

Predictability is Selfs greatest weakness and greatest strength, paradox of life.

jmo

O.city 03-29-2015 07:12 PM

Mellinger wrote a good article about it dunno if it was posted here.

Yes, this was a down year, but if this is a down year, I'd be pretty damn happy with that. Also talked about how they were expecting embiid to be dominant this year, but it happened faster than anticipated and with cliff doing what he did or didn't do, thongs just didn't work out.

Bill has also not been at Ku the length of time those guys have been where they've been, but his tourney record has been pretty solid.

Prison Bitch 03-29-2015 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11409757)
Be happy with Marty Shott .... Bill Self, things could be much,much worse.

Not sure I get that comparison. Maybe Bobby Cox. Or Tony Dungy.

O.city 03-29-2015 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11409779)
Not sure I get that comparison. Maybe Bobby Cox. Or Tony Dungy.

It's Laz

KC_Connection 03-29-2015 07:35 PM

I have little doubt that we're going to look back at this Ellis/Selden era as a pretty dark period in KU basketball. I'm grateful, though, that this (27 wins, B12 title, #2 seed, R32 exit) is pretty much as bad as it gets under Self. It could definitely be so much worse (and it is for basically every other coach at this level).


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