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Mother****erJones 07-16-2015 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11602977)
John Dorsey would have taken Haden

Oh I'm ****ing sure he would have. That's a crazy ****ing what if. Have you talked to John Dorsey? So you know who he would've taken in that draft?

DaneMcCloud 07-16-2015 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 11602982)
Oh I'm ****ing sure he would have. That's a crazy ****ing what if. Have you talked to John Dorsey? So you know who he would've taken in that draft?

Haden plays a position of extreme importance and value. Haden was the best available athlete at #5 overall that year.

LT, Pass rushing OLB, CB. These are the three most important positions outside of quarterback.

Is it surprising to you that all three have been the Chiefs first round selections under Dorsey?

Mother****erJones 07-16-2015 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11602985)
Haden plays a position of extreme importance and value. Haden was the best available athlete at #5 overall that year.

LT, Pass rushing OLB, CB. These are the three most important positions outside of quarterback.

Is it surprising to you that all three have been the Chiefs first round selections under Dorsey?

He's replacing guys. That's the plan. Fisher replacing Albert. Ford will be replacing Hali eventually and Peters will be replacing Smith (though I hope we keep Sean). Berry was absolutely the right pick at the time. No one knocked it. It was a consensus home run pick.

DaneMcCloud 07-16-2015 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 11602988)
He's replacing guys. That's the plan. Fisher replacing Albert. Ford will be replacing Hali eventually and Peters will be replacing Smith (though I hope we keep Sean). Berry was absolutely the right pick at the time. No one knocked it. It was a consensus home run pick.

I wasn't a fan. I'm still not. While he's had "Pro Bowl" years with really bad teams, he's never been a game changer and he's far from being the best safety in Chiefs history, regardless of "where they played him".

He will always be a waste of a valuable resource, IMO, just like Tyson Jackson and Jonathan Baldwin.

BlackOp 07-16-2015 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 11602979)
We had Branden Albert.

You just dont give a rookie the highest contract at his position...in NFL history. It's stupid...you have like a 2% chance of it working to your advantage...probably less than that. It's not surprising that Pioli isn't a GM anymore...but he did draft Houston...so that saves him from wishing death on his family...barely.

Mother****erJones 07-16-2015 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11602989)
I wasn't a fan. I'm still not. While he's had "Pro Bowl" years with really bad teams, he's never been a game changer and he's far from being the best safety in Chiefs history, regardless of "where they played him".

He will always be a waste of a valuable resource, IMO, just like Tyson Jackson and Jonathan Baldwin.

So, now you're putting Berry into the TJax and Baldwin bust category? ROFL

Mother****erJones 07-16-2015 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 11602992)
You just dont give a rookie the highest contract at his position...in NFL history. It's stupid...you have like a 2% chance of it working to your advantage...probably less than that. It's not surprising that Pioli isn't a GM anymore...but he did draft Houston...so that saves him from wishing death on his family...barely.

Curse the old CBA not the team nor Berry.

DaneMcCloud 07-16-2015 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 11603000)
So, now you're putting Berry into the TJax and Baldwin bust category? ROFL

:facepalm:

DaneMcCloud 07-16-2015 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 11603001)
Curse the old CBA not the team nor Berry.

"Curse" the GM for not taking a position of value and giving that player $60 million.

BlackOp 07-16-2015 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 11603001)
Curse the old CBA not the team nor Berry.

I'm not even saying that at this point...I dont think KC needs him anymore. I thought that before he was diagnosed with cancer...and the fact nothing really changed when he left only confirmed what I thought. It not a matter if I like him as a person...I just see those dollars being used for positions that need improving.

RealSNR 07-16-2015 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 11602992)
You just dont give a rookie the highest contract at his position...in NFL history. It's stupid...you have like a 2% chance of it working to your advantage...probably less than that. It's not surprising that Pioli isn't a GM anymore...but he did draft Houston...so that saves him from wishing death on his family...barely.

Pioli deserves no credit for drafting Houston. It was ****ing asinine that he dropped out of the 1st round just for weed in the first place. We're damn lucky he made it through the entire 2nd round and even several picks in the 3rd.

Rodney Hudson was a good player, but you don't let a perfect player for what we needed in our 3-4 scheme just continue to drop like that.

I think all the NFL GMs met in secret after the 1st round in 2011 and had a glue sniffing party. There's no other way to explain Justin Houston falling to us in the 3rd round like that.

booger 07-16-2015 11:54 PM

Might take a look at DE red Bryant. Depends on if you think he's just playing for a paycheck or is actually motivated. Kc had strong interest before he signed with the jags last year. Can dominate against the run and if willing to play n't and spell Poe he would be a nice pick up

DaneMcCloud 07-17-2015 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11603029)
Pioli deserves no credit for drafting Houston. It was ****ing asinine that he dropped out of the 1st round just for weed in the first place. We're damn lucky he made it through the entire 2nd round and even several picks in the 3rd.

Rodney Hudson was a good player, but you don't let a perfect player for what we needed in our 3-4 scheme just continue to drop like that.

I think all the NFL GMs met in secret after the 1st round in 2011 and had a glue sniffing party. There's no other way to explain Justin Houston falling to us in the 3rd round like that.

The entire draft process has become asinine.

These guys are not only poked and prodded, asked to take outdated IQ tests along with butthole, power hungry GM's asking a battery of very personal questions but put on display like the Westminster Dog Show.

It's ridiculous.

smith11 07-17-2015 01:04 AM

is the wr james jones still unsigned? brandon lloyd is always fun to watch, that catch he made vs chiefs last year won the game for niners

evan mathis is a left guard, as is grubbs...who would move to the right side if he signed

greshman would be a boost at te, if healthy

chiefzilla1501 07-17-2015 03:10 AM

In the Ryan defense, ss is arguably more important than fs so I understand why they kept him there. It just begs the question of why we fielded maybe out best defense in years with him off the field.


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