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siberian khatru 07-20-2015 06:56 PM

That was not optimal

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-20-2015 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11608631)
Ventura needs to throw 98-100 or he can't get people out

How much of it is just regression to the mean, though?

His walk rate is down, K-rate is the same, he's inducing more groundballs, fewer line drives, and fewer flyballs. When he throws a ball outside of the zone and the batter swings, they make contact a lot less often than last year, but they hit stuff inside the zone more often.

His SIERA and xFIP is almost the same as last year, where he outperformed his peripherals.

I haven't seen him save for a few starts (once live). Is he really all that different of a pitcher? They all can't have the horseshoe-filled ass of Chris Young.

Hootie 07-20-2015 06:57 PM

Still gonna blame Rios on that. Terrible

Dartgod 07-20-2015 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bsroyals54 (Post 11608686)
**** not even one

I blame it on Gordon's injury.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-20-2015 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11608681)
I'll never get how a "ung" sound gets transliterated as a "ang."

Just call him Kim Jong Un. It's easier to remember. I hate that ****.

C3HIEF3S 07-20-2015 06:58 PM

Holy ****ing gut.

RollChiefsRoll 07-20-2015 06:58 PM

Rios is such a boner killer

Dartgod 07-20-2015 06:58 PM

I hope the fat guy on the end just ate Alex Rios.

Discuss Thrower 07-20-2015 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11608692)
Just call him Kim Jong Un. It's easier to remember. I hate that ****.

FYI, Aaron Crow only has two pitches.

petegz28 07-20-2015 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11608690)
Still gonna blame Rios on that. Terrible

**** him...douche swung at ball 4 with a strike to give and then whiffed not even giving us a chance.....

Al Bundy 07-20-2015 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11608689)
How much of it is just regression to the mean, though?

His walk rate is down, K-rate is the same, he's inducing more groundballs, fewer line drives, and fewer flyballs. When he throws a ball outside of the zone and the batter swings, they make contact a lot less often than last year, but they hit stuff inside the zone more often.

His SIERA and xFIP is almost the same as last year, where he outperformed his peripherals.

I haven't seen him save for a few starts (once live). Is he really all that different of a pitcher? They all can't have the horseshoe-filled ass of Chris Young.

A lot more pitches across the middle with no movement and some type of injury.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-20-2015 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11608697)
FYI, Aaron Crow only has two pitches.

Too hard to teach a polished college righty a changeup grip?

Hootie 07-20-2015 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11608689)
How much of it is just regression to the mean, though?

His walk rate is down, K-rate is the same, he's inducing more groundballs, fewer line drives, and fewer flyballs. When he throws a ball outside of the zone and the batter swings, they make contact a lot less often than last year, but they hit stuff inside the zone more often.

His SIERA and xFIP is almost the same as last year, where he outperformed his peripherals.

I haven't seen him save for a few starts (once live). Is he really all that different of a pitcher? They all can't have the horseshoe-filled ass of Chris Young.

Just ask yourself one thing ... What's harder to hit? 95 or 98?

That 3 MPH makes a world of difference. If Kelvin Herrera threw 95 he'd be useless. Last year, Ventura led baseball in pitches thrown over 98 MPH and led all starters in average MPH fastball

This year? I guarantee he's way down. 95 is hittable. 99 takes luck. The difference between 90 & 95 is one thing, the difference between 95 & 100 is just HUGE

Discuss Thrower 07-20-2015 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11608704)
Too hard to teach a polished college righty a changeup grip?

That's duncan's field, not mine.

Hootie 07-20-2015 07:02 PM

He's gunning it now ... Maybe he's done with this "throw softer" bullshit


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