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eDave 07-31-2015 02:29 PM

ROFL

This thread has gone full reerun.

Hootie 07-31-2015 02:43 PM

Dane is bashing me for suggesting Wilson would get 5 years, $110M and $80M guaranteed.

Instead, he got 4 years, $88M and $60M guaranteed.

But now, his argument is that I am an idiot because I didn't say extension ... when, as pointed out with Rodgers' deal (which is what I based my 5/110/80 on) is also an extension, now Dane says, "so!."

What?

God he's dumb.

Hootie 07-31-2015 02:45 PM

Every QB who signs a mega deal (sans Peyton Manning who was coming off injury), signs an extension. It's implied. So when someone says, "Russell will get 5/110 with 80", it's implied that it is going to be an extension to his current deal.

I cannot believe we're arguing these semantics. It's hilarious.

Of course, Dane is the same guy who concludes Russell is getting Alex money because he added the last year of Russell's rookie deal to Russ's new money and failed to do the same with Alex because he's a god damn, mouth breathing dumb ****.

Sassy Squatch 07-31-2015 02:45 PM

You guys will find the dumbest shit to argue over.

MagicHef 07-31-2015 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11629841)
It's not "logic", it's fact.

Agents and teams throw out all the crazy ass numbers to wow and impress people, but the books say otherwise.

If Aaron Rodgers is currently playing on a 7 year, $129 million dollar contract (and I'm just using your numbers, not looking them up), then he's averaging $18.4 million per year, that is, if he hits all of his escalators.

It's pretty simple.

You're not incorrect.

However, most people tend to look at a deal in terms of comparing it to what would have happened if no deal had been signed, i.e. the original contract with no extension.

Hootie 07-31-2015 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 11629875)
You guys will find the dumbest shit to argue over.

Dane gets his foot stuck so far in his mouth it's actually impressive that he'll keep battling when he's ankle deep like that

Hootie 07-31-2015 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 11629881)
You're not incorrect.

However, most people tend to look at a deal in terms of comparing it to what would have happened if no deal had been signed, i.e. the original contract with no extension.

well, unless you're DaneMcCloud ... who realized, "oh shit, I'm wrong ... how can I try to spin this to save face!"

...and then they'll start adding years from the old contract to make the extension fit their prerogative ... while quoting other QB's like Rodgers' and Smith contract's as if they weren't extension contracts

DaneMcCloud 07-31-2015 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11629889)
well, unless you're DaneMcCloud ... who realized, "oh shit, I'm wrong ... how can I try to spin this to save face!"

...and then they'll start adding years from the old contract to make the extension fit their prerogative ... while quoting other QB's like Rodgers' and Smith contract's as if they weren't extension contracts

It's clear that you have absolutely zero understanding of finances and accounting and prefer to parrot whatever you'd told by the media.

Unsurprising.

Hootie 07-31-2015 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11629909)
It's clear that you have absolutely zero understanding of finances and accounting and prefer to parrot whatever you'd told by the media.

Unsurprising.

Lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

BigMeatballDave 07-31-2015 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11629868)
Dane is bashing me for suggesting Wilson would get 5 years, $110M and $80M guaranteed.

Instead, he got 4 years, $88M of which $60M guaranteed.

But now, his argument is that I am an idiot because I didn't say extension ... when, as pointed out with Rodgers' deal (which is what I based my 5/110/80 on) is also an extension, now Dane says, "so!."

What?

God he's dumb.

Fixed. The way you're writing it, makes it look like the contract value is $148m. :) Yeah, I'm nitpicking.

DaneMcCloud 07-31-2015 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11629868)
Dane is bashing me for suggesting Wilson would get 5 years, $110M and $80M guaranteed.

Instead, he got 4 years, $88M and $60M guaranteed.

But now, his argument is that I am an idiot because I didn't say extension ... when, as pointed out with Rodgers' deal (which is what I based my 5/110/80 on) is also an extension, now Dane says, "so!."

What?

God he's dumb.

I'm not bashing you for your prediction. You said that you never threw out numbers, but you did, as proven by your quote.

I am, however, bashing you for your refusal to understand even simple math, which I've illustrated time and again and linked to a CBS Sports article that did the same.

I don't care for meaningless words like "extension". It's completely and utterly worthless. The fact of the matter is that Russell Wilson is now signed to the Seattle Seahawks for five seasons, with a maximum contractual value of $87.5 million, which divided by 5 seasons, equals $17.5 million dollars per season.

End of story.

Saul Good 07-31-2015 03:27 PM

Dane is so bad at this.

Hootie 07-31-2015 03:37 PM

So Russell, on his 2nd contract, is making $17.5 with a metric shit ton of guarantees while Aaron, on his 3rd contract, is making $18.9 with a metric shit ton of guarantees.

Way to prove your point, man! Oh, what point was that again? That I predicted $22M a year over 5 years and he ended up getting $22M a year over 4 years instead? Where did you get this $25M number from?

Oh ... wait ... I forgot ... when I said 5/110 I forgot to include the last year of his rookie deal ... because, you know, people do that (no they don't.)

Dane pulled $25M out of his ass ... realized I correctly predicted $22M (just 1 year short), and then now is suddenly referencing the final year of his contract as some "see, I told you so!" sort of ridiculous tactic so he doesn't have to admit that yes, he was wrong (per usual).

Typical DaneMcCloud.

Hootie 07-31-2015 03:42 PM

I truly didn't remember predicting 5/110, either. It's just hilarious that Dane used that as some sort of "omg what an idiot!"

DaneMcCloud 07-31-2015 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11629954)
So Russell, on his 2nd contract, is making $17.5 with a metric shit ton of guarantees while Aaron, on his 3rd contract, is making $18.9 with a metric shit ton of guarantees.

Way to prove your point, man! Oh, what point was that again? That I predicted $22M a year over 5 years and he ended up getting $22M a year over 4 years instead? Where did you get this $25M number from?

Oh ... wait ... I forgot ... when I said 5/110 I forgot to include the last year of his rookie deal ... because, you know, people do that (no they don't.)

Dane pulled $25M out of his ass ... realized I correctly predicted $22M (just 1 year short), and then now is suddenly referencing the final year of his contract as some "see, I told you so!" sort of ridiculous tactic so he doesn't have to admit that yes, he was wrong (per usual).

Typical DaneMcCloud.

Who cares what you "predicted" but you?

And for the record, your "prediction" was wrong.


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