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TEX 11-03-2015 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 11861678)
I'm coming around on this. Look across the parking lot. People wanted to run Ned Yost out of town a few years ago. Horrible in game decisions with bullpen, bunting all the time. #Yosted. Dayton Moore was brought in after being an understudy to a long time GM with a stable winning franchise. Both he and Dorsey started their GM careers with the number one pick and picked a player that started out as a bust but tuned solid if nothing else (Hocheavar/Fisher)

Also in the nfl, tom Coughlin, dick vermeil in STL, Ron Rivera, Marvin Lewis, and probably more are all examples of coaches that fans wanted to ship out that either won the super bowl or are undefeated his year.

Both Reid and Dorsey also come from organizations that know the importance of having a franchise QB. Do this, and I'm on board. Until then, I'm skeptical. That's the way it should be - especially in KC where a retread QB culture exists.

KCTitus 11-03-2015 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 11861726)
...especially in KC where a retread QB culture exists.

Interesting point...and it begs the question how or why does that exist? Everything has changed, and I mean everything from the owner on down. It was arguable that while Peterson was here that was his decision alone, but it was clear, he was taking his cues from his head coaches.

Some thought Lamar, well, he's gone (RIP) as well...I'd like to assume that Clark didnt promise his father on his death bed to 'never draft a QB', so there's got to be an opportunity for this to happen at some point.

Three front office regimes in the last 10+ years and each one has picked up a cast off from another team and propped him up as a starter while ignoring the position for all intents and purposes in the draft.

OctoberFart 11-03-2015 08:54 AM

Hey your guys next QB from SF just became available. Colin K would fit perfect with KC.

FloridaMan88 11-03-2015 09:11 AM

I am not against Clark committing to Dorsey/Reid long term, but he needs to demand some changes to the coaching staff and force Reid to give up play-calling duties, unless the Chiefs somehow turn their season around during the final 8 games.

TEX 11-03-2015 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 11861825)
I am not against Clark committing to Dorsey/Reid long term, but he needs to demand some changes to the coaching staff and force Reid to give up play-calling duties, unless the Chiefs somehow turn their season around during the final 8 games.


Regardless, a franchise QB must finally be drafted and developed on their watch.

Discuss Thrower 11-03-2015 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 11862011)
Regardless, a franchise QB must finally be drafted and developed on their watch.

Better get over that idea sooner than later.

The Franchise 11-03-2015 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 11862011)
Regardless, a franchise QB must finally be drafted and developed on their watch.

We're slowly ****ing ourselves out of the position to draft one. And good luck trading up for one.

chiefzilla1501 11-03-2015 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 11861825)
I am not against Clark committing to Dorsey/Reid long term, but he needs to demand some changes to the coaching staff and force Reid to give up play-calling duties, unless the Chiefs somehow turn their season around during the final 8 games.

Clarks comments this week don't sound promising. He's spinning this as if we are turning this ship around because we've won a few pretty meaningless games. And it sounds like we're keeping guys like Sean Smith around to make a desperate run even though we know Smith won't be back next year.

This is on Clark. Reid is going to absorb power until somebody stops him.

RunKC 11-03-2015 11:34 AM

We need to start hitting our draft choices more often like the Royals..

The Franchise 11-03-2015 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11862039)
Clarks comments this week don't sound promising. He's spinning this as if we are turning this ship around because we've won a few pretty meaningless games. And it sounds like we're keeping guys like Sean Smith around to make a desperate run even though we know Smith won't be back next year.

This is on Clark. Reid is going to absorb power until somebody stops him.

We're keeping Sean Smith because he's ****ing talented. Would you rather we trade him for pennies and start Fleming or Cooper?

Discuss Thrower 11-03-2015 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11862041)
We're keeping Sean Smith because he's ****ing talented. Would you rather we trade him for pennies and start Fleming or Cooper?

A tradeable pick next year is worth more than a possible untradable compensation pick the year after.

The Franchise 11-03-2015 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11862045)
A tradeable pick next year is worth more than a possible untradable compensation pick the year after.

Not if it's anything lower than a 5th. And not if we have the chance to resign Smith to a decent deal.

TEX 11-03-2015 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11862041)
We're keeping Sean Smith because he's ****ing talented. Would you rather we trade him for pennies and start Fleming or Cooper?

You're correct about Smith and in assuming that's probably what Zilla would do.

The Franchise 11-03-2015 11:50 AM

Don't get me wrong......if a team came along and offered up a 3rd or 4th round pick for Smith....I'd do it. But that's not going to happen.

And this FO is not going to start trading everyone away....especially not after the last two wins.

O.city 11-03-2015 11:58 AM

Playing for draft position hasn't helped in the past anyway. This draft qb wise is gonna be about the scouting direction and which one best fits what you're looking for anyway (thanks DJ) so theres no point in tanking.

They need to be trying to get Berry and the NT playing well whose name escapes me right now signed and see what Sean Smith is gonna look for, likely more than I'd pay, but I'd be interested in knowing.


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