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Easy 6 04-26-2016 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12195954)
I do, although I don't think it needs to be addressed in the first round.

Currently, there is no true left guard on the roster. Fulton's played left guard, right guard and center. LDT's played left guard in preseason but right guard during the season. Jah Reid has played right guard and right tackle but to my knowledge, he's not played left guard and certainly hasn't done so over the course of a season.

I wouldn't be shocked to see them take a left guard in the 2nd round, nor would I be shocked to see them take Evan Boehm in the 4th round.

My thing is, this is the year for a deep playoff run so I'd like as many picks as possible to immediately contribute and its hard to see a rookie coming in and picking things up fast enough to displace any of the three mentioned

Morse and Fulton did it, so its possible, but at the same time the depth wasnt what it is now when they came aboard... but as with just about anything Dorsey does, if he thinks its whats best I will fully back it

I'm still kinda stuck on pass rush help, an OLB who maybe needs work against the run but can come in on passing downs immediately

O.city 04-26-2016 12:53 PM

I think if you want immediate contributions, lg or corner are your most likely picks early.

Maybe dl

RealSNR 04-26-2016 12:55 PM

Does anybody here REALLY think Dorsey will draft a guard in the 1st round?

He's one of the most BPA-or-bust GMs in the league. Yes, it's impossible to go TRUE BPA, since I don't think there's a GM out there would would ever say, "Well, we've already drafted three RBs in the previous rounds, but this next RB is #1 on our board, so uhh... let's do it!" But we've seen him take positions groups with gaping holes (WR and OL in 2014) and blatantly ignore them until the 6th round or by drafting a speed RB to ideally play gadget WR.

Is Whitehair or Garnett the 28th best player in the draft? When the Chiefs pick at 28, is Whitehair or Garnett going to be the top guy on their board? Or are there better players at different positions?

We're so deep that we could end up drafting anything in the 1st. I'm going to go ahead and say that there is a pretty ****ing slim chance of us going interior line in the 1st round. Hell, I don't even think it's likely that he'll consider it in the 2nd round.

He's going to draft with contracts and player age in mind if he takes need into account at all. That's what all three of his first round picks have in common. That leads me to believe that DL is a pretty good bet.

O.city 04-26-2016 12:58 PM

Guards are getting ridiculous money these days and are just as important against tackles.

For the chiefs offense se to be as good as we hope, I think a good lg is the most important piece to acquire.

DaneMcCloud 04-26-2016 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12195974)
My thing is, this is the year for a deep playoff run so I'd like as many picks as possible to immediately contribute and its hard to see a rookie coming in and picking things up fast enough to displace any of the three mentioned

Morse and Fulton did it, so its possible, but at the same time the depth wasnt what it is now when they came aboard... but as with just about anything Dorsey does, if he thinks its whats best I will fully back it

I'm still kinda stuck on pass rush help, an OLB who maybe needs work against the run but can come in on passing downs immediately

I think that there is absolutely no doubt that a first or second round guard would be an immediately contributor and a upgrade over Fulton or Reid.

staylor26 04-26-2016 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12195982)
Does anybody here REALLY think Dorsey will draft a guard in the 1st round?

He's one of the most BPA-or-bust GMs in the league. Yes, it's impossible to go TRUE BPA, since I don't think there's a GM out there would would ever say, "Well, we've already drafted three RBs in the previous rounds, but this next RB is #1 on our board, so uhh... let's do it!" But we've seen him take positions groups with gaping holes (WR and OL in 2014) and blatantly ignore them until the 6th round or by drafting a speed RB to ideally play gadget WR.

Is Whitehair or Garnett the 28th best player in the draft? When the Chiefs pick at 28, is Whitehair or Garnett going to be the top guy on their board? Or are there better players at different positions?

We're so deep that we could end up drafting anything in the 1st. I'm going to go ahead and say that there is a pretty ****ing slim chance of us going interior line in the 1st round. Hell, I don't even think it's likely that he'll consider it in the 2nd round.

He's going to draft with contracts and player age in mind if he takes need into account at all. That's what all three of his first round picks have in common. That leads me to believe that DL is a pretty good bet.

If I had to guess, I would say DL also. It's definitely wide open.

Chief Northman 04-26-2016 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12195950)
I see it this way.

If you dint think they need another guard, I don't see how you advocate for another corner. The corners on the roster are better than the guards on the roster.

Not when your projected #2 corner is coming off a major injury, and has proven to be less than reliable when it comes to staying healthy over the course of his career. This is a make or break year for Gaines. Insurance at the position is needed, especially when there are still question marks at slot corner.

I'm not saying Corner is the pick at #28, but I'd be shocker if one is not selected from one of the three first picks the Chiefs hold.

O.city 04-26-2016 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 12196015)
Not when your projected #2 corner is coming off a major injury, and has proven to be less than reliable when it comes to staying healthy over the course of his career. This is a make or break year for Gaines. Insurance at the position is needed, especially when there are still question marks at slot corner.

I'm not saying Corner is the pick at #28, but I'd be shocker if one is not selected from one of the three first picks the Chiefs hold.

Ok, so who's your projected starting lg right now and how is that any better than gaines?

BossChief 04-26-2016 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12195987)
Guards are getting ridiculous money these days and are just as important against tackles.

For the chiefs offense se to be as good as we hope, I think a good lg is the most important piece to acquire.

I'd have no problem if Dorsey using that 4th on one, if he feels LDT isn't taking his opportunity seriously and that Fultons feet aren't fast enough to play on the left.

But without having a 3rd, we can't use either of those first 2 picks on the OL, IMO at least.

I could easily be wrong.

This draft is stupid deep with corners, DL and there are some very intriguing guys at LB and QB that might make sense, too.

O.city 04-26-2016 01:10 PM

If we're talking beat value, matching BPA at 28, I'd imagine whitehair or garnett is right there, yes.

Easy 6 04-26-2016 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12196006)
I think that there is absolutely no doubt that a first or second round guard would be an immediately contributor and a upgrade over Fulton or Reid.

Hard to argue against that, I'm just of the mind that our interior is plenty good enough to roll with, particularly considering just how big of an effect Schwartz is going to have

O.city 04-26-2016 01:13 PM

To get the most out of Alex smith, he needs protected. Same for whoever the next qb is.

A rookie lg with what else we've got on the ol gives you (hopefully) 5 years of really good ol play

O.city 04-26-2016 01:18 PM

But they may very well take a dl. That's fine, I can see it. I'm just not convinced that's the BEST bang for their buck but it could go either way

DaneMcCloud 04-26-2016 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12196025)
Hard to argue against that, I'm just of the mind that our interior is plenty good enough to roll with, particularly considering just how big of an effect Schwartz is going to have

Schwartz isn't going to affect the left guard.

I think that Fulton and Reid are "capable" but that's not really ideal for a team with Championship aspirations.

Urc Burry 04-26-2016 02:10 PM

I will say that I am a lot more comfortable taking a guard this year as opposed to other years like when DeCastro and Irving were constantly mocked to us. But it still isn't anywhere near the top of my list in the first


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