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ToxSocks 08-24-2016 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 12384327)
Look I'm sorry about the facepalm but please try to understand this isn't about greed. This is about an organization who does stupid stuff to their employees all the time and are poorly run. It's why Eli left. They're terrible. Bosa just happens to already be wealthy so that he doesn't have to give in to the shitty contract. It sets a precedent going forward. That's why I used the (admittedly hyperbole) term heroic. Most of us would take the bad contract because whatever, give me that money I desperately need.

But the truth of the situation, money aside, is that it's a bad contract. The Chargers should get ****ed over for trying to pull it. Bosa will undoubtedly lose money on this but for me man I'm happy he's doing it because he's calling Spanos' insane bluff. The balls that takes (and the independent wealth) are impressive.
Hyperbole.

It's comparable to what's been given to most players since the new CBA took affect, and comparable to the contracts given to those slotted around him.

This is a standard contract that the Chargers have been doing for years.

Hell, even the new contract Rivers signed last season had a deferred payment. Apparently it's good enough for a Pro-Bowl QB, but not good enough for a rookie DE.

Kiimo 08-24-2016 02:43 PM
Only STANDARD FOR THE CHARGERS

Rivers might have had a deferred payment but did it also have offset language?

Also that doesn't really apply because the problem with this is because he's a rookie.

Iowanian 08-24-2016 02:43 PM
Am I the only one that roots for guys that do this shit to slip their legs under a train when they pull this crap?

When you're being so greedy you just deserve bad karma to send you to a job at Home Depot.

Chiefnj2 08-24-2016 02:44 PM
According to a source familiar with the negotiation, the Chargers offered to pay Bosa 85 percent of his $17 million signing bonus at the time of signing, and the rest in the new league calendar year in March. Bosa's camp remained steadfast in receiving the entire signing bonus by the end of this year.

Kiimo 08-24-2016 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12384335)
It's comparable to what's been given to most players since the new CBA took affect
This, but the exact opposite of this.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 12384340)
Am I the only one that roots for guys that do this shit to slip their legs under a train when they pull this crap?

When you're being so greedy you just deserve bad karma to send you to a job at Home Depot.
http://i.imgur.com/9GgLjQT.gif

Iowanian 08-24-2016 02:49 PM
What kind of Mexican drug cartel shit does a guy have going on that he can't wait a few months for guaranteed money? 85% of the guaranteed bonus isn't exactly chump change and it doesn't appear that this is an unheard of practice.

ct 08-24-2016 02:53 PM
at this point bosa has thrown in the towel on #3 pick money and all of 2016. he's goin back in 2017 draft, and probably high 2nd round pick, imo. no team will touch him in the 1st round, but might still roll the dice once they get out of the 1st. lmao if its san diego that takes him #1 in the 2nd round, haha.

listopencil 08-24-2016 02:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 12384340)
Am I the only one that roots for guys that do this shit to slip their legs under a train when they pull this crap?

When you're being so greedy you just deserve bad karma to send you to a job at Home Depot.
I'm rooting for several things:

1) for this to work out as badly for the Chargers as possible because they are a division rival

2) for this guy to get a deal that is within the normal guidelines of rookie deals

3) for this guy to be traded to a different team if he's an impact player

ToxSocks 08-24-2016 03:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wildcat2005 (Post 12384334)

Every 3rd overall pick under the new CBA has included either no offset language, or no deferral. The Chargers are demanding both.
This is skewed data. I've stated this already.

2013 was the first draft under the new CBA.

2013 #3 Overall: Dolphins

2014 #3 Overall: Jaguars

2015: #3 Overall: Jaguars


As i have stated, the Jaguars are ONE of TWO teams, out of 32, that does not do deferred payments regardless of where they pick. So when your redit poster is babbling on and on, he fails to realize this fact.

So your example is useless. 2 out of the 3 #3 overalls were made by the Jags. No precedent has been set.

ToxSocks 08-24-2016 03:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 12384339)
Only STANDARD FOR THE CHARGERS

Rivers might have had a deferred payment but did it also have offset language?

Also that doesn't really apply because the problem with this is because he's a rookie.
The point im making is that it's standard practice for the Chargers, not some wild hair they got because Bosa.

It's how they've always done business. It has nothing to do with Bosa or where he was drafted.

wazu 08-24-2016 03:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ct (Post 12384359)
at this point bosa has thrown in the towel on #3 pick money and all of 2016. he's goin back in 2017 draft, and probably high 2nd round pick, imo. no team will touch him in the 1st round, but might still roll the dice once they get out of the 1st. lmao if its san diego that takes him #1 in the 2nd round, haha.
You just know he'll be drafted by the Browns.

ToxSocks 08-24-2016 03:03 PM
What they're REALLY arguing over is interest. Interest that could be recouped by the team by deferring the signing bonus, or interest made by Bosa by having that money up front.

That's what they're REALLY arguing over.

Buehler445 08-24-2016 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12383985)
It'd be hilarious if he re-entered the draft and lost out on all that money. I hope the Chargers don't cave.

This Bosa kid is an epic douchebag.
Christ. They showed his picture from the draft on ESPN. The dude seethes douche.

Here's the right answer **** the Dolts, **** Bosa.

The Franchise 08-24-2016 03:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ct (Post 12384359)
at this point bosa has thrown in the towel on #3 pick money and all of 2016. he's goin back in 2017 draft, and probably high 2nd round pick, imo. no team will touch him in the 1st round, but might still roll the dice once they get out of the 1st. lmao if its san diego that takes him #1 in the 2nd round, haha.
Chargers wouldn't be able to draft him.

The Franchise 08-24-2016 03:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12384375)
Christ. They showed his picture from the draft on ESPN. The dude seethes douche.

Here's the right answer **** the Dolts, **** Bosa.
This.

This is the correct answer for this situation.


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