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DaneMcCloud 09-30-2016 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12457924)
When did I say anyone has to outbid DTV? Take a lower bid... I'd say ability to market to 80M more households could easily recover the difference. And it's not just subscribers. More viewers = higher ratings/sponsorships/ad $'s. Loyal fans spend more $'s.

If ratings are down by 20% I'd be really damn concerned about winning those fans back instead of justifying a contract that restricts fan options.

The DirecTV contract was bad to begin with. But it's really bad today in a world where fans are watching significantly more shit online or streaming. DirecTV/ATT can and should offer Sunday Ticket to a mass audience. But until they do, the NFL will keep taking a bigger hit until the 2 sides adjust to reality. Goodell's Twitter deal suggests he gets it.
Just shut the **** up

splatbass 09-30-2016 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12457924)
When did I say anyone has to outbid DTV? Take a lower bid... I'd say ability to market to 80M more households could easily recover the difference. And it's not just subscribers. More viewers = higher ratings/sponsorships/ad $'s. Loyal fans spend more $'s.

If ratings are down by 20% I'd be really damn concerned about winning those fans back instead of justifying a contract that restricts fan options.

The DirecTV contract was (*edit.. Wasn't bad) bad to begin with. But it's really bad today in a world where fans are watching significantly more shit online or streaming. DirecTV/ATT can and should offer Sunday Ticket to a mass audience. But until they do, the NFL will keep taking a bigger hit until the 2 sides adjust to reality. Goodell's Twitter deal suggests he gets it.
I have NFL Sunday Ticket streaming - but I live in a condo and don't have DirectTV. As long as you live somewhere where you can't get DirectTV you can get the streaming - in other words anyone can get Sunday Ticket, DirectTV subscribers and people who can't subscribe because of where they live. There are really very few people that don't have it available to them.

displacedinMN 09-30-2016 08:33 PM
Be a football player-not an activist.

Mr. Laz 09-30-2016 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12457945)
I don't care about the political - its a free country and people are entitled to their beliefs - it is the rule changes that I don't like. They have taken all the fun out of the game. No celebrations, taunting penalties for stupid little shit, etc. Hell, these are grown men playing a violent sport, but they can't wag a finger at an opposing player? What, is the NFL afraid it will hurt the player's feelings? Maybe they need counselors on the sideline....
No, it's all about avoiding getting sued by the players.

If the NFLPA and Players agreed to drop all lawsuits and waive injury liability then the rules can go back to what they were in 1980.

When players taunt then other players get pissed and retaliate with hits.

Pasta Little Brioni 09-30-2016 08:58 PM
Zilla you have no damn clue what you are talking about. JFC dude...

chiefzilla1501 09-30-2016 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12458016)
Zilla you have no damn clue what you are talking about. JFC dude...
There are 3.5M people who order MLB.TV

Only 2M have Sunday Ticket.

You do the math. I didn't realize baseball was so much more popular than the NFL.

splatbass 09-30-2016 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12458062)
There are 3.5M people who order MLB.TV

Only 2M have Sunday Ticket.

You do the math. I didn't realize baseball was so much more popular than the NFL.
I have both. MLB.TV costs $130 for the entire season, 162 games. NFL Sunday Ticket costs $200 for 16 weeks, 16 Chiefs games - minus nationally televised games like this Sunday. MLB.TV is a much better deal. Maybe that is why. Because unless you are in prison or live in a cave you can get NFL Sunday Ticket. I stream it right to my TV.

chiefzilla1501 09-30-2016 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12457981)
I have NFL Sunday Ticket streaming - but I live in a condo and don't have DirectTV. As long as you live somewhere where you can't get DirectTV you can get the streaming - in other words anyone can get Sunday Ticket, DirectTV subscribers and people who can't subscribe because of where they live. There are really very few people that don't have it available to them.
I wasn't aware that they were doing this and it looks like a recent thing. If so, then I'm wrong on my #'s. And I apologize. Though it only solves the problem where DirecTV isn't available. It doesn't solve the problem for those who have no interest in installing a physical dish. Until they solve that, they're holding the NFL back because it's still a huge missed opportunity.

Pitt Gorilla 09-30-2016 10:04 PM
How is the NFL politically correct?

splatbass 09-30-2016 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12458071)
I wasn't aware that they were doing this and it looks like a recent thing. If so, then I'm wrong on my #'s. And I apologize. Though it only solves the problem where DirecTV isn't available. It doesn't solve the problem for those who have no interest in installing a physical dish. Until they solve that, they're holding the NFL back because it's still a huge missed opportunity.

No need to apologize.

I've been streaming it for 3 or 4 years. If people don't want a physical dish that is their choice of course, but they have the option so they can't really complain that they can't get it.

chiefzilla1501 09-30-2016 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12458082)
No need to apologize.

I've been streaming it for 3 or 4 years. If people don't want a physical dish that is their choice of course, but they have the option so they can't really complain that they can't get it.
Well, the main point I was trying to make is that I'd imagine it explains some of the recent problems with ratings. The DirecTV Sunday Ticket model made a ton of sense a few years ago. But it's not a good model for households who are "dish or bust" for Sunday Ticket. Streaming usage is close to overtaking cable/satellite. It's unbelievable how quickly that's happened. At least DirecTV gets that and is changing their model. But until then, it's going to hold the NFL ratings back. Getting a dish to get to streaming is out of date. But I appreciate the explanation as I was clearly wrong on one of my main points.

splatbass 09-30-2016 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12458085)
Well, the main point I was trying to make is that I'd imagine it explains some of the recent problems with ratings. The DirecTV Sunday Ticket model made a ton of sense a few years ago. But it's not a good model for households who are "dish or bust" for Sunday Ticket. Streaming usage is close to overtaking cable/satellite. It's unbelievable how quickly that's happened. At least DirecTV gets that and is changing their model. But until then, it's going to hold the NFL ratings back. Getting a dish to get to streaming is out of date. But I appreciate the explanation as I was clearly wrong on one of my main points.
Could be. I also think the price is too expensive for a lot of people. But for those of us who are out of the Chiefs broadcast area it is great. I wouldn't mind a pay-per-view cable system though. It would be easier and no worries about buffering.

Bugeater 09-30-2016 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12458071)
I wasn't aware that they were doing this and it looks like a recent thing. If so, then I'm wrong on my #'s. And I apologize. Though it only solves the problem where DirecTV isn't available. It doesn't solve the problem for those who have no interest in installing a physical dish. Until they solve that, they're holding the NFL back because it's still a huge missed opportunity.
It also doesn't solve the problem for those who have no interest in dealing with the crooked ****s at DirecTv.

15 years ago I figured it would only be a matter of time before DTV lost their stranglehold on the Sunday ticket. Now I'm beginning to wonder if I'll even outlive that contract.

Psyko Tek 09-30-2016 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Top (Post 12456998)
I keep reading about how the NFL is losing viewers/fans.I'm wondering if its because of all the rule changes that has seemed to make the game less interesting? Or is it because of all the political actions that you don't agree with and you just don't watch it anymore or fail to become interested.
I htink it's because the defense can't do shit
politics is not for my sunday
they can protest what they want before and after the game
I have no ****s to give for that, just american citizens exercising thier rights

I blame the product on the field

WhawhaWhat 09-30-2016 11:09 PM
I think the ratings are down because the level of play has steadily gone down hill since the last CBA legislated practicing out of the game. Tackling is atrocious. More and more plays end up looking like playground football which is why running QBs are becoming more and more successful.


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