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KC_Connection 04-08-2018 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by otherstar (Post 13508506)
It was exceptional, but still not at the same level as Jack Nicklaus....and Nicklaus had MUCH tougher competition.

I don't want to diminish Jack Nicklaus' level of dominance which was similar, but the competition in Nicklaus' era wasn't even close to as good as it was in Tiger's. Nowhere near the same kind of depth/talent pool.

srvy 04-08-2018 11:05 PM

ROFL Surely you were drunk when you posted this:rolleyes:

srvy 04-08-2018 11:22 PM

The shortlist of greats of the game Nicklaus played with Gary Player (nine majors), Tom Watson (eight), Arnold Palmer (seven), Lee Trevino (six) and Seve Ballesteros (five).

CoMoChief 04-09-2018 01:07 AM

It was nice to see Tiger play well the last rd.

When Tiger golfs, the world watches. Plain n simple.

Garcia Bronco 04-09-2018 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 13508911)
I don't want to diminish Jack Nicklaus' level of dominance which was similar, but the competition in Nicklaus' era wasn't even close to as good as it was in Tiger's. Nowhere near the same kind of depth/talent pool.

what?...okay.

oldman 04-09-2018 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 13508987)
The shortlist of greats of the game Nicklaus played with Gary Player (nine majors), Tom Watson (eight), Arnold Palmer (seven), Lee Trevino (six) and Seve Ballesteros (five).

Yep, put Woods in with that group and he wouldn't have won so easily. I'm not saying he isn't great, but no one matches Jack.

Kman34 04-09-2018 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman (Post 13509116)
Yep, put Woods in with that group and he wouldn't have won so easily. I'm not saying he isn't great, but no one matches Jack.

It would be interesting to see Tiger and Jack play each other in their prime using the same equipment... either with today’s technology or yesterday’s...

srvy 04-09-2018 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman (Post 13509116)
Yep, put Woods in with that group and he wouldn't have won so easily. I'm not saying he isn't great, but no one matches Jack.

Yep and I didnt even include Raymond Floyd, Hale Irwin and Johhny Miller trying to show a little Mercy.

srvy 04-09-2018 08:20 AM

Another thing not mentioned here that needs noted Jack played the prime of his career without the aid of technological advance in clubs and balls. The huge metal woods and graphite drivers and fairway woods were in his twilight years. Yet as a young phenom he was driving 300 yards and hitting mid irons on his second to par 5's. Tiger was the greatist of his generation and and one of the greatest ever but Jack is the GOAT far and away.

ChiTown 04-09-2018 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 13508911)
I don't want to diminish Jack Nicklaus' level of dominance which was similar, but the competition in Nicklaus' era wasn't even close to as good as it was in Tiger's. Nowhere near the same kind of depth/talent pool.

JFC, just stop

KC_Connection 04-09-2018 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 13509059)
what?...okay.

How is this in any way controversial? The sport and its talent pool have evolved immensely since the Nicklaus era. It continues to. Many more countries play the sport and develop elite athletes than they used to in the 60s/70s.

KC_Connection 04-09-2018 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 13508987)
The shortlist of greats of the game Nicklaus played with Gary Player (nine majors), Tom Watson (eight), Arnold Palmer (seven), Lee Trevino (six) and Seve Ballesteros (five).

That’s true but how good was the 20th ranked golfer then? The 40th? The 100th?

That’s where the difference in the eras lies. There are always great golfers in any era, but the standard to even play at this level has risen significantly as more countries/athletes have begun playing the sport.

Garcia Bronco 04-09-2018 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 13509223)
How is this in any way controversial? The sport and its talent pool have evolved immensely since the Nicklaus era. It continues to. Many more countries play the sport and develop elite athletes than they used to in the 60s/70s.

Tiger in his prime did not ever face the consistent great talent Jack had to face.

Look both guys had incredible careers, but if TW is a 10 then Jack is a 10.2.

fan4ever 04-09-2018 10:48 AM

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/08/jac...n-bubba-watson

I wonder how todays pros would have done with Jack's equipment...340 yard drive with a persimmon head and wound ball...1963

BWillie 04-09-2018 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 13509274)
Tiger in his prime did not ever face the consistent great talent Jack had to face.

Look both guys had incredible careers, but if TW is a 10 then Jack is a 10.2.

I'd argue that neither of them did. Tiger created a whole new talent pool to golf. He increased popularity by at least 2x. Those kids Tiger brought to golf? Well they are in their prime now.

Tiger doesn't have to beat Mark O'Meara, Fuzzy Zoeller and David Duval anymore. He has to beat Dustin Johnson, Jordan Speith, Rory McIlroy, Ricky Fowler, Bubba Watson etc. That is the best talent pool in golf's history probably. It's just math. How many people played golf 60 years ago? How many played golf 30 years ago? How many play now? As the amount of people that play golf increases, the competition gets much more difficult.


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