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JPH83 09-30-2021 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15863455)
The Jaguars are 11th in pass block win rate.

They have some decent weapons in Marvin Jones, DJ Chark, and Laviska Shenault.

I don’t see how any of that is an excuse for the poor decision making and all around bad play.

Carolina's making Darnold look half decent, obviously the landing spot matters and there's a reason the Jag's picked first, they're JAGs. You don't, and they haven't, turned that around with one draft and offseason.

He might not be the player they hoped for or some predict but this is ridiculously early. He was an excellent college player and a completely reasonable number 1 pick.

Bearcat 09-30-2021 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 15863387)
I’m looking forward to seeing him tonight and forming my own judgements, not only him but Meyer as well

I didn't even think about that... took one glance at "Bengals vs Jags" and threw up a little.

Guess that's a decent enough reason to watch or at least have handy.

Bowser 09-30-2021 11:42 AM

Is it a Trevor Lawrence problem, or is it an Urban Meyer thinking-he-can-coach-in-the-NFL problem?

RealSNR 09-30-2021 11:48 AM

Zach Wilson looks like the superior QB thus far. And Wilson is struggling.

staylor26 09-30-2021 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 15863698)
Carolina's making Darnold look half decent, obviously the landing spot matters and there's a reason the Jag's picked first, they're JAGs. You don't, and they haven't, turned that around with one draft and offseason.

He might not be the player they hoped for or some predict but this is ridiculously early. He was an excellent college player and a completely reasonable number 1 pick.

Again, I’ve already said that I think he’ll be alright and will be a solid QB at the very least.

But it’s amazing how the same people that called Lawrence “generational” are the first ones making excuses for him now.

Andrew Luck went to the team with the #1 overall pick, and they were immediately competitive. Luck was truly “generational”. Lawrence just isn’t.

For all the talk about Lawrence’s OL, they seem to be doing a good enough job in pass protection. They’re just one spot behind us in pass block win rate at 11th. That’s not bad at all.

T-post Tom 09-30-2021 11:55 AM

He is almost worth one of Patrick Mahomes’ jockstraps.

Shiver Me Timbers 09-30-2021 12:02 PM

Lawrence will turn out to be the Jags modern day version of OUR OWN Todd Blackledge.
The Jags got a JAG. LOL

staylor26 09-30-2021 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15863739)
Zach Wilson looks like the superior QB thus far. And Wilson is struggling.

I have to agree. They’re both struggling, but even going back to the preseason, I’ve just seen more flashes from Wilson.

RunKC 09-30-2021 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15863771)
I have to agree. They’re both struggling, but even going back to the preseason, I’ve just seen more flashes from Wilson.

Have you seen Wilson? He legitimately has nobody. Like his OL is ass bc of injury and his WR’s are so awful.

Feel bad for the guy. He shouldn’t have been a starter this year. These lumps could really hurt him

Easy 6 09-30-2021 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 15863710)
I didn't even think about that... took one glance at "Bengals vs Jags" and threw up a little.

Guess that's a decent enough reason to watch or at least have handy.

And the Bengals are actually halfass good these days, having just put a thumping on the Steelers… with Burrow around they’re on the rise

staylor26 09-30-2021 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15863790)
Have you seen Wilson? He legitimately has nobody. Like his OL is ass bc of injury and his WR’s are so awful.

Feel bad for the guy. He shouldn’t have been a starter this year. These lumps could really hurt him

Oh yea, I know he doesn’t have much help either. He has a bad OL, no running game, and not enough weapons to work with.

His situation is significantly worse than the one Lawrence is in.

KChiefs1 09-30-2021 12:24 PM

Tonight will be the first time I have watched these 2 QB’s. Jags & Bungles aren’t usually playing a meaningful game.


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staylor26 09-15-2022 02:52 PM

Is is time to admit that this guy is a huge disappointment?

I know it was just 1 week, but I saw absolutely nothing in that game last week to make me feel any different about last year. He looks like the same guy, except he's maybe not throwing as many picks.

Ome things for sure, in no way was he a "generational prospect".

ToxSocks 09-15-2022 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16464870)

Ome things for sure, in no way was he a "generational prospect".

well....he has a generational neck, that's for sure.

myselff77 09-15-2022 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16464870)
Is is time to admit that this guy is a huge disappointment?

I know it was just 1 week, but I saw absolutely nothing in that game last week to make me feel any different about last year. He looks like the same guy, except he's maybe not throwing as many picks.

Ome things for sure, in no way was he a "generational prospect".

I'd certainly take many other Quarterbacks over him at this point. A debate we got into here while seeing him look mediocre... If he'd have been drafted by an Andy Reid coached team and allowed to sit for a year, would he be a LOT better than what we see now?


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