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carcosa 07-12-2019 08:53 AM

Man, I'm beyond ****ing ready for this ordeal to be over.

RealSNR 07-12-2019 08:53 AM

"Abusers typically deny that they did anything wrong. It's quite common behavior."

Hill: "But I'm not an abuser"

"THAT'S JUST WHAT AN ABUSER WOULD SAY!!!!"

Hoover 07-12-2019 08:54 AM

Newspaper editorial boards are jokes. They think they have some sort of authority on telling the public how they should think on any particular issue.

What a crock.

Traditional news media is a joke, and the Hill situation has exposed that in the KC area.

AdolfOliverBush 07-12-2019 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 14344881)
It's an opinion piece. The facts are correct. The rest is opinion. You can agree, disagree, be triggered by it, or disregard it. Up to you :shrug:

Yes it's an opinion piece, but when it's filled with statements like this, they are intentionally trying to pass off opinion as fact:

"What Espinal was trying to get was the audio equivalent of that video."

Oh really? That's quite an assumption. Two can play that game.

"What Espinal was trying to get is leverage to extort Hill, because she's a sociopath and knows Hill is leaving her."

Prove me wrong.

44yearsandcounting 07-12-2019 09:00 AM

I’m sure TH’s agent feels this way, and I’d assume the Chiefs organization does as well, but at some point very soon, a concerted effort should be made to rehabilitate Hill’s image. Barring any further revelations, recordings, or hit pieces, it would seem obvious that neither Hill personally, the Chiefs organization, nor especially the NFL, want this lingering into the season. Opposing fan bases won’t care what the facts are, but the NFL can’t go into the regular season with ambiguity about such a high profile case. Something needs to break big and soon.

MVChiefFan 07-12-2019 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14344893)
"Abusers typically deny that they did anything wrong. It's quite common behavior."

Hill: "But I'm not an abuser"

"THAT'S JUST WHAT AN ABUSER WOULD SAY!!!!"

When I hear it this way, I get even more infuriated!!! There’s no winning with these idiots!

Lprechaun 07-12-2019 09:00 AM

NFL needs to get a ruling and get this squashed. We need training camp and some wins under our belt so we can get back to talking football again

Mecca 07-12-2019 09:02 AM

It's really infuriating for the local paper to basically call for one of the teams best players to be suspended when we are going for a bowl this year.

Do they need a suspension as some type of validation that they are right? Is that really what this is about in the end?

Hammock Parties 07-12-2019 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14344911)
It's really infuriating for the local paper to basically call for one of the teams best players to be suspended when we are going for a bowl this year.

Do they need a suspension as some type of validation that they are right? Is that really what this is about in the end?

They refuse to admit they are wrong or offer apology, another than Sam The Man.

They think they are morally right, which supersedes the law or logic.

**** 'em.

Lprechaun 07-12-2019 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14344911)
It's really infuriating for the local paper to basically call for one of the teams best players to be suspended when we are going for a bowl this year.

Do they need a suspension as some type of validation that they are right? Is that really what this is about in the end?

That's what happens when you hire people from outside your area to cover your sports who also come in with an agenda.

IowaHawkeyeChief 07-12-2019 09:06 AM

A couple of points. They say it is typical for an abuser to deny... Why also didn't they say it's typical for an abuser's behavior not to change. Hill had no history of his abuse before OKC 2014 and he has had none since. That doesn't jive with their narrative.

I also love the liberal editorial board not understanding what most conservatives even get: We do have a two tiered justice system and if you are black and out of money and relegated to a public defender after being accused of punching and choking your pregnant girlfriend in Oklahoma, you plea, especially if it is expunged after 3 years and your are 19.

Also, if the evidence of this abuse in 2014 was concrete and graphic, do you think the prosecutor goes with this being expunged after 3 years, or should it be on his record?

Also do you think the judge would have said what he said during the sentencing if the evidence of this horrible abuse was evident and without doubt?

SJWs on their high horses and contradicting previous positions...:rolleyes:

Mecca 07-12-2019 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Lprechaun (Post 14344914)
That's what happens when you hire people from outside your area to cover your sports who also come in with an agenda.

I was fully certain that Pryor viewed this exactly like Joe Mixon and she used that story to get a promotion....it's really ****ed up when the whole department does it and basically doubles and triples down on it.

redfan 07-12-2019 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 14344898)
Newspaper editorial boards are jokes. They think they have some sort of authority on telling the public how they should think on any particular issue.

What a crock.

Traditional news media is a joke, and the Hill situation has exposed that in the KC area.

The "news" has been merely a vehicle to sell ads for quite a while now. It's just like reality TV; no actors or writers!
It should be easy: Something happens, then reporters report what happened.
The story itself should be enough, otherwise why report it? But that's not good enough anymore, a lot of people want to be told how they should feel about any particular event.
Traditional news media can't die quick enough for me.

petegz28 07-12-2019 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 14344830)
He plead guilty and paid the penalty for 2014, that matter from a legal standpoint is resolved. But CP can't go around claiming he was innocent back then when he said the opposite, even though we would all feel better if he hadn't abused her.

And with respect to the Star piece, they just pointed out that it's typical for even admitted abusers to later claim, and sometimes truly believe, that they never did anything wrong. Doesn't necessarily mean that describes Hill, but it's still true.

I didn't know you were a witness to the situation....good to know

RollChiefsRoll 07-12-2019 09:09 AM

Assume for a moment that this eventually does blow over, Hill serves whatever suspension he's going to get, and football resumes as normal. If you're Hill, when the time comes, ask yourself why the **** you would want to re-sign to play in this market.


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