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BossChief 08-26-2019 11:19 AM

Moore is the guy I was hoping they would sign in 2013 to be a bridge quarterback to Geno Smith. Oooo the memories.

I’m kinda surprised people are this shocked about Speaks and his injury timetable. I figured that was a given.

nychief 08-26-2019 11:20 AM

I love when all the fat ****s on here get indignant about a player’s weight.


Good news for Tanoh.

Hoover 08-26-2019 11:20 AM

on the bright side injuries allow us to stash some young developing talent a little easier...

I'm bummed about Speaks, but the rest of it doesn't really move the needle with me.

BossChief 08-26-2019 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14410225)
Ok they can't go on PUP, they practiced, it's IR or on the roster but inactive.

Considering how not valuable they are likely considered it's gonna be IR.

So now we're gonna open the year with an IR list that probably looks like this.

Henne
Speaks
Kemp
Lovett
Dieter
Reaser

And it's questionable if Yelder goes there.

Henne will get an injury settlement for the estimated amount of games he would be healthy for after rehab.

Chief Roundup 08-26-2019 11:26 AM

Welp still over reaction planet.
Speaks doesn't suck. Not every player drafted is going to be a superstar HOF player.
Ogbah probably makes the roster now as a DE and allows them to keep both X. Williams and J Hamilton.
Henne meh whatever. We aren't going to win anything with him or Moore or Shurmur or Litton.

Mecca 08-26-2019 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14410241)
Henne will get an injury settlement for the estimated amount of games he would be healthy for after rehab.

He could be usually vet players just go on IR.

suzzer99 08-26-2019 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 14410251)
Welp still over reaction planet.
Speaks doesn't suck. Not every player drafted is going to be a superstar HOF player.
Ogbah probably makes the roster now as a DE and allows them to keep both X. Williams and J Hamilton.
Henne meh whatever. We aren't going to win anything with him or Moore or Shurmur or Litton.

Counterpoint: Speaks does in fact suck.

Chief Roundup 08-26-2019 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14410225)
Ok they can't go on PUP, they practiced, it's IR or on the roster but inactive.

Considering how not valuable they are likely considered it's gonna be IR.

So now we're gonna open the year with an IR list that probably looks like this.

Henne
Speaks
Kemp
Lovett
Dieter
Reaser

And it's questionable if Yelder goes there.

We can only have 2 with the designation to return.

staylor26 08-26-2019 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 14410230)
Those of you talking shit on Speaks better watch out. When he comes back and makes 1 tackle for a loss, staylor is gonna let you know about it. You've been warned.

Just because I don’t write players off before year 2 it doesn’t mean I’m a fan. ****ing moron.

Chief Roundup 08-26-2019 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 14410254)
Counterpoint: Speaks does in fact suck.

Speaks is good rotational depth.
Not his fault where he was drafted.

DJ's left nut 08-26-2019 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14410225)
Ok they can't go on PUP, they practiced, it's IR or on the roster but inactive.

Considering how not valuable they are likely considered it's gonna be IR.

So now we're gonna open the year with an IR list that probably looks like this.

Henne
Speaks
Kemp
Lovett
Dieter
Reaser

And it's questionable if Yelder goes there.

Reaser's on a 1-yr deal with no chance to return this season; no reason to IR him at all. Dieter is also on a 1-yr deal with little/no value to this team right now and extremely long odds to be picked up by anyone.

You keep Reaser and Dieter on the IR, you're burning $1.15 million or so in cap space to do it - why? Just cut both of them. You should probably consider cutting Henne as well; you could save $1.5 million of his base salary doing that.

Kemp and Lovett have genuine 'stash' value so they're worth the headache, but people forget that if you IR a dude you gotta pay him like an NFL player. Cut some of that dead weight.

O.city 08-26-2019 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14410258)
Just because I don’t write players off before year 2 it doesn’t mean I’m a fan. ****ing moron.

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DJ's left nut 08-26-2019 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 14410256)
We can only have 2 with the designation to return.

Only 2 of them can. You don't have to 'pre-designate' who those 2 are, though.

The only caveat is that you have to have them on the 53 for day 1 of the season. So anyone that's put on the IR before the season starts cannot return (likely to happen with Kemp if it hasn't already). But if a player is injured, kept on the roster and then IR'd after the 53 man cut-down, they can be one of your 2 players that returns.

Just another reason why putting the IR tag on Dieter is useless. You don't want to clear a 53 man spot for the guy and if you don't at cut-down deadline, he can't come back anyway. Just cut him loose.

CasselGotPeedOn 08-26-2019 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14410258)
Just because I don’t write players off before year 2 it doesn’t mean I’m a fan. ****ing moron.

You're way too easy to troll LMAO

DJ's left nut 08-26-2019 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14410258)
Just because I don’t write players off before year 2 it doesn’t mean I’m a fan. ****ing moron.

You should write off Breeland Speaks.

He sucks.


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