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RunKC 02-07-2020 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14783636)
He is almost a 6 million dollar cap hit, can you justify that for a 3rd safety?

Yes. Thornhill won’t be back until mid season at best and I trust Dan to be a solid #2 back there.

We don’t have to get rid of literally everybody bc we are paying Pat

wachashi 02-07-2020 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 14783664)
Jones is worth more than that for compensation.

Maybe, but I'm operating under the assumption that Jones will command less in draft capital than Clark did, given the positions they play.

Frank Clark: Pick 30 (620 value points) + future second
Chris Jones: Pick 27 (680 value points) + future fourth

DRAFTEK

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 02-07-2020 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 14783670)
I think we already have his replacement in Rankin. He looked great until his injury. Sign Wis to a one year deal to start at the other guard. Reiter becomes the weak link then.

Wiz is gonna want to get paid too. We can’t pay everyone. This is Reiters last year tho. This team is gonna look really different next year

DRM08 02-07-2020 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 14783668)
Lose our 2nd best receiver who just balled out in the playoffs, And take a Huge cap hit?

Cutting him would save $14M on the cap. They very well might need this money to fill out the roster with solid players.

kcclone 02-07-2020 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 14783534)
No, I wouldn't take more money to go to a less rewarding situation (assuming I already had more than enough).

And I know I'd be in the minority among these greedy bastards, but I'd definitely be the type to take a big hometown discount to stay with Reid/Mahomes and build a dynasty.

The d-bags need to realize that they're already far wealthier than they have any right to be.



What?

You sound like a communist here. What is the proper amount of wealth they they have the "right to" in your opinion?

You do realize the following don't you?:

1- You (and I and other fans) pay their salaries via ticket sales, TV viewership, gear, etc

2- Their bodies and brains take a beating that cuts their life and quality of life shorter than most careers.

The Franchise 02-07-2020 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14783681)
Wiz is gonna want to get paid too. We can’t pay everyone. This is Reiters last year tho. This team is gonna look really different next year

Says ****ing who? Dude was sitting out there until we signed him. I highly doubt he’s out there looking to break the bank.

smithandrew051 02-07-2020 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14783687)
Cutting him would save $14M on the cap. They very well might need this money to fill out the roster with solid players.

Beat me to it.

Veach can’t (and won’t) become a prisoner of the moment. We all love what Watkins has done in every playoff game as a Chief, but he disappears for long stretches every season and is constantly battling injuries.

We can’t pay him this much for another season. Hardman will have to step up as a true number 2 (and I think he will).

There are really 3 options:

-release
-renegotiate
-trade

He won’t be back at his current price tag.

smithandrew051 02-07-2020 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14783691)
Says ****ing who? Dude was sitting out there until we signed him. I highly doubt he’s out there looking to break the bank.

I bet we can get him on a decent 1-year deal. Then draft his replacement next year.

suzzer99 02-07-2020 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kcclone (Post 14783689)
What?

You sound like a communist here. What is the proper amount of wealth they they have the "right to" in your opinion?

You do realize the following don't you?:

1- You (and I and other fans) pay their salaries via ticket sales, TV viewership, gear, etc

2- Their bodies and brains take a beating that cuts their life and quality of life shorter than most careers.

No shit man - these guys are risking life-long physical and mental disability for our entertainment. They deserve every cent they can get.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 02-07-2020 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14783691)
Says ****ing who? Dude was sitting out there until we signed him. I highly doubt he’s out there looking to break the bank.

And he balled out in the playoffs. He is gonna command some money now

Randallflagg 02-07-2020 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kcclone (Post 14783689)
What?

You sound like a communist here. What is the proper amount of wealth they they have the "right to" in your opinion?

You do realize the following don't you?:

1- You (and I and other fans) pay their salaries via ticket sales, TV viewership, gear, etc

2- Their bodies and brains take a beating that cuts their life and quality of life shorter than most careers.


While I absolutely agree with your first point, I have to take exception with the second. They are not "required" to play football. They have chosen that. The beating they take comes with the job and they accept that. But I do agree that their careers are relatively short - and they make as much as they can while they can. Can't fault them at all.

Mecca 02-07-2020 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14783676)
Yes. Thornhill won’t be back until mid season at best and I trust Dan to be a solid #2 back there.

We don’t have to get rid of literally everybody bc we are paying Pat

Look at our cap numbers for next year, we have several huge ones, you throw in a new Mahomes contract unless there are multiple cuts we won't even be able to fill out a 53.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Frank Clark&#39;s cap hit is taking a monster leap this off-season.<br><br>2019: $6.5M<br>2020: $22.7M<br><br>Sammy<br>$19.2<br>$21<br><br>Schwartz<br>$6.43<br>$10.82<br><br>Fisher<br>$7.04<br>$14 .98<br><br>Mahomes<br>$4.48<br>$5.23<br><br>Hitchens<br>$5.23<br>$12.69</p>&mdash; Josh Webb (@shwebb29) <a href="https://twitter.com/shwebb29/status/1225610772237225984?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That also doesn't even show Mathieu's number which ramps up.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 02-07-2020 12:42 PM

Do we even re sign Pat knowing what he wants?? We’re not gonna have a team. We’re gonna have vet min signings at near every single position

Mecca 02-07-2020 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14783750)
Do we even re sign Pat knowing what he wants?? We’re not gonna have a team. We’re gonna have vet min signings at near every single position

......

If you make the moves I suggested you can get up to nearly 40 mill of space, If you give Mahomes a 20 mill base in year 1 then you still have money to work with and you'll get some more money back that next year.

Halfcan 02-07-2020 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14783687)
Cutting him would save $14M on the cap. They very well might need this money to fill out the roster with solid players.

7 Million in Dead Cap money- plus losing our 2nd best WR. That was my point. I am not advocating keeping him at 21 million.

Sammy has all the leverage. I am not sure any team will trade for him with that kind of salary due.


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