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displacedinMN 06-17-2020 07:52 PM

I am ready for Ermines Planet.

Zebedee DuBois 06-17-2020 08:44 PM

"Chief" is not an indigenous american word. It is a word Europeans extended to natives to denote leadership

Etymology of "Chief" per https://www.etymonline.com/word/chief
chief (adj.)
c. 1300, "highest in rank or power; most important or prominent; supreme, best, placed above the rest," from Old French chief "chief, principal, first" (10c., Modern French chef), from Vulgar Latin *capum (also source of Spanish and Portuguese cabo, Italian capo, Provençal cap), from Latin caput "head," also "leader, guide, chief person; summit; capital city" (from PIE root *kaput- "head").

chief (n.)
c. 1300, "head, leader, captain; the principal or most important part of anything;" from Old French chief "leader, ruler, head" of something, "capital city" (10c., Modern French chef), from Vulgar Latin *capum, from Latin caput "head," also "leader, chief person; summit; capital city" (from PIE root *kaput- "head"). Meaning "head of a clan" is from 1570s; later extended to headmen of American Indian tribes (by 1713; William Penn, 1680s, called them kings). Commander-in-chief attested from 1660s.

ThyKingdomCome15 06-17-2020 08:50 PM

I guess people have nothing better to do than be angry at everything. So lame.

srvy 06-17-2020 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 15020726)
I’ve never understood what’s insensitive about Chiefs, or even Indians. Indians I could understand a little more, but still not really. Redskins I get, but does that even bother native Americans?

Would Vikings, Cowboys, Texans, or Patriots be insensitive?

Personally I’m offended by Jets after 9/11. I’m surprised peta hasn’t come after the Lions, Bears, Dolphins and so on.

Yeah those Dolphins jerked out of the vast ocean and thrown in a round cement pond of water. Made to jump through fire hoops for our entertainment. Their only reward is occasional dolphin rape or a cute blond trainer. At worlds of fun they finally switched to Skipper and Dolly to all Dolly's because of those horny little serial rapists.

displacedinMN 06-18-2020 09:25 AM

Here is more.....Just because Chiefs are mentioned by name



DULUTH – City leaders are making a push to remove the word “chief” from job titles, calling the term offensive to indigenous people.

At a news conference Wednesday, Duluth Mayor Emily Larson implored City Council members to vote to approve the change next week “so that we have more inclusive leadership and less language that is rooted in hurt and offensive, intentional marginalization.”

The measure, slated to go before the council Monday night, would change Chief Administrative Officer Noah Schuchman’s title to city administrator and Chief Financial Officer Wayne Parson’s title to finance director.

“I think that there are other titles that we have the opportunity to use to steer away from language that may put people down based off their race or culture,” said Alicia Kozlowski, Duluth’s community relations officer and member of the Grand Portage and Fond du Lac Bands of Lake Superior Chippewa.

Kozlowski said “chief” is used as “a racial epithet, and it turns into a microaggression.” She added that the city is trying to be proactive by addressing the issue before residents ask.

The discussion echoes ongoing controversies over sport team names like the Washington Redskins and Cleveland Indians, which indigenous groups have protested since the 1960s. During their playoff run earlier this year, the Kansas City Chiefs — now the defending Super Bowl champions — drew criticism from groups who called the name and the popular “tomahawk chop” cheer offensive.

Larson said the city is also considering changing the titles of Duluth’s police and fire chiefs, though that won’t be decided at Monday’s meeting. The term is used by professional law enforcement associations and to refer to those in comparable public safety roles elsewhere, which makes finding a suitable replacement more challenging — though Larson said Police Chief Mike Tusken and Fire Chief Shawn Krizaj are open to conversations about such efforts.

A spokesperson for the League of Minnesota Cities said he isn’t aware of any other municipalities in the state weighing similar proposals.

The move is part of a larger charge to tweak Duluth’s charter to make language “more inclusive, more reflective, more accurate and more modern,” said Larson, who was elected the city’s first female mayor in 2015.

Nodding to ongoing efforts spurred by the City Council, she said the municipality’s legal foundation should also include “gender-neutral language to better reflect that the mayor is not always going to be a man.”

On Monday evening, the City Council will also vote on a separate measure revising the statement that was published with its new flag design last August.

Duluth officials said Wednesday that feedback showed community members felt the statement was not inclusive enough, so city staff partnered with the local branch of the NAACP to add a line proclaiming the flag a symbol of “commitment to equality and inclusiveness” and an embrace of “the word Umoja, an African principle meaning unity of family, community, nation and our unique ancestries.”

burt 06-18-2020 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 15020271)
Having a soccer team in KC is far more derogatory.

Zach may be a queen, but KC Sporting has hundreds of thousands of supporters.... and as a sport, soccer is much more supported than the NFL.

burt 06-18-2020 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 15020489)
:bravo::bravo::bravo:

Soccer is the world's sport, so let's just call it a socialist sport that coined the term 'football';) and then America came along and legitimized the game and the term 'football' calling it the NFL in which a lot of $$ can be made by a lot of people(capitalism). You can't say that about soccer.;)

While NFL teams are worth up to BILLIONS, Soccer is still lucrative....

"Real Madrid is the most valuable football club in the world in 2019, with a value of 4.239 million dollars, according to the prestigious Forbes publication."

"He's currently playing for the Italian team, Juventus, and the Portugal national team. As of 2020, Cristiano Ronaldo's net worth is roughly $460 million, making him one of the richest athletes in the world.

Spott 06-18-2020 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by burt (Post 15025948)
Zach may be a queen, but KC Sporting has hundreds of thousands of supporters.... and as a sport, soccer is much more supported than the NFL.

Hundreds of thousands of fans? Gtfo. Is it because of their immense popularity that you refer to them by the wrong name? Soccer might be popular in other countries, but not here. It’s pretty far down the list for American sports, although it’s probably more popular than the WNBA.

displacedinMN 06-18-2020 12:02 PM

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In today's world-what is more offensive.

Washington or Redskin

displacedinMN 06-18-2020 12:13 PM

and now the Texas Rangers


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The injustices of the present are forcing a confrontation with our past — a past wreathed in nostalgia and myths that conceal grim realities. The Civil War ended 155 years ago, but only recently have Americans begun renouncing flags, statues and monuments paying homage to Southern traitors. Other symbols of racist oppression are also under attack.

Lately, the movement has gained momentum. A committee in the Republican-controlled Senate voted to strip the names of Confederate generals from Army bases. Protesters in Richmond pulled down statues of Jefferson Davis and Christopher Columbus. The city of Albuquerque, New Mexico, has removed a statue of a Spanish conquistador.

In Texas, the shift has put one of the world’s most storied law enforcement agencies under harsh scrutiny. City and airport officials recently removed a statue that had stood at Love Field since 1962 — of a Texas Ranger.

The Rangers have always been widely revered in my native state. We learned they were fearless guardians of civilization whose exploits went back to when settlers were fighting Comanche warriors.

They were immortalized in Larry McMurtry’s novel, “Lonesome Dove.” There was a TV series that starred Chuck Norris. The Major League Baseball team in Arlington is called the Texas Rangers.

The legends omit a lot of the reality. A magisterial new book by journalist Doug J. Swanson, “Cult of Glory: The Bold and Brutal History of the Texas Rangers,” lays bare their long record of savagery, lawlessness and racism.

“They burned peasant villages and slaughtered innocents,” he writes. “They committed war crimes. Their murders of Mexicans and Mexican Americans made them as feared on the border as the Ku Klux Klan in the South.”

A century ago, during the fighting that took place along the border during the Mexican Revolution, blood flowed like the Rio Grande. “The terms ‘death squads’ and ‘ethnic cleansing’ would not enter common usage for another sixty years or so,” Swanson notes, “but that was what the Rangers were and what they did.”

Later, they were a bulwark acting to hold back racial equality. When black students tried to enroll in the segregated Texarkana Junior College in 1956, angry whites barred the way, hurling gravel and racial slurs and forcing the students to leave. The Rangers stood idly by.

The message to racists, said a member of the Texas Civil Rights Advisory Committee, was plain: “If you will only assemble a mob, or threaten to do so, the power of the Texas Rangers will be on your side to deny civil rights to schoolchildren.”

When farmworkers, most of them Mexican-American, went on strike in 1966, some were beaten and arrested by Rangers. An old saying is: “Every Texas Ranger has Mexican blood. It’s on his boots.”

The revelations in Swanson’s book were the impetus to take down the Love Field statue. That decision is a good start in coming to grips with the Rangers’ poisonous past.

But the baseball club still carries the name of an agency that struck terror in many nonwhites.

This is not, it turns out, a new issue. Domingo Garcia, a former Dallas City Council member who is national president of the League of United Latin American Citizens, recalls that when the Washington Senators baseball franchise moved to Arlington after the 1971 season, the organization held demonstrations to protest naming the team after the Rangers. “We’ve been the victims of Texas Ranger violence since the 1800s,” he told me.

Benjamin Johnson, a Texan and history professor at Loyola University Chicago, acknowledges that the Rangers no longer murder people or block integration. “But for most of their nearly 200 years of existence, they have been an instrument of white supremacy in Texas,” he says.

In light of all this, the name, like the Confederate names on Army bases, deserves to be relegated to the garbage dump of history. It’s an undeserved tribute that reflects a widespread ignorance, at best, of the Rangers’ malignant past.

It may be argued that the team name honors the current agency, not the worst elements of its history. But without the history and the legends, the franchise would not have adopted the name. No one would name a major league team “The Police” or “The Highway Patrol.”

The Rangers name is an affront to Hispanics, African-Americans and anyone who favors racial equity. It should be an intolerable embarrassment to the owners and fans.

Even the Aunt Jemima brand had to go. And Aunt Jemima never murdered anyone.



Steve Chapman blogs at chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chapman. Follow him on Twitter @SteveChapman13 or at facebook.com/stevechapman13.

KChiefs1 06-21-2020 05:49 PM

The Pitch trying to call out Chiefs as being racists
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 15026172)
and now the Texas Rangers


Holy shit.


Lamar Hunt & Tex Schram met by the Texas Ranger to agree to a merger.

BucEyedPea 06-21-2020 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 15019815)
There is absolutely 0 consensus among Native Americans about all of this... for every outraged view, there’s a high school football team in AZ fighting to keep their Redskins identity

You could always switch the team's name to Fire Chiefs. Make the logo a fireman's hat and you could still do your tomahawk chop but call it a fireman's chop. Ya' know like when they use an axe to strike iron for forceable entry.

That would work. Just a thought.

RealSNR 06-22-2020 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 15026172)
and now the Texas Rangers

Texas Rangers is at least an improvement from their former name: The Washington Senators

Demonpenz 06-22-2020 12:52 PM

Change the name to Fire Chiefs. Have cross axes with KCFD on the helmet. Fountains the dalmation will be the mascot. Our slogan will be "Ladder up!" The cheerleaders will be the KC Hose. Holthus has a field day as ONCE AGAIN THE DEFENSE PUTS THE FIRE OUT.

Demonpenz 06-22-2020 12:56 PM

*After a sack of Derrick Carr* And the the FireChiefs once again put the jaws of life to a carr.


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