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carcosa 10-21-2020 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 15263396)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Watkins, Schwartz, Okafor and Taco Charlton will not practice for Chiefs today.</p>&mdash; Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamteicher/status/1318957821606699008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I hope Okafor and Charlton's injuries are relatively minor...

Rain Man 10-21-2020 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by penchief (Post 15262932)
Their altitude advantage is the single greatest competitive advantage in all of sports. It helped them pad their regular season records and earn playoff births. Playing at home in the playoffs afforded them the same advantage. That is why good, not great, bronco teams made it to the super bowl so many times only to get blown out by vastly superior teams.

The boost they get record-wise from their thin air home games cannot be understated. Between that and their documented history of cheating on and off the field, Denver is no better than other run of the mill team. Their fans who think they have some sort of great legacy crack me up.

Here is the bronco legacy in the order of most important contributions to their three tainted super bowl wins.

Thin air advantage.
Cheating the salary cap.
John Elway.
Cheating on the field and dirty play.
Manning’s farewell tour and subsequent reach around from the league.
Elite defense during Super Bowl L run.

Denver fans are some of the most delusional and self-entitled fans in the league. The chief’s legacy already surpasses theirs and will only dwarf it by the time Mahomes, Reid, and Veach are done.


I think that "cheating on the field and dirty play" needs to be subdivided into categories. You've got equipment cheating like vegetable oil, you've got sportsmanship cheating like diving at the backs of players' knees, you've got a special category for Romanowski trying to break players' fingers in the pile, and I'm pretty sure that Aqib Talib and Von Miller carried guns in their waistbands.

TIED5573 10-21-2020 11:47 AM

Is there any Chief player speaking on record about the altitude advantage? Ever?

Mecca 10-21-2020 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TIED5573 (Post 15263568)
Is there any Chief player speaking on record about the altitude advantage? Ever?

I'm sure you can find some guys after they retired talking about it, but it's not something anyone talks about when they're playing, I think it's a mental thing.

TIED5573 10-21-2020 11:56 AM

It seems like the highly trained athlete would be less affected and with oxygen available the recovery should be pretty rapid. I would think the linemen would be most affected.

Mecca 10-21-2020 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TIED5573 (Post 15263599)
It seems like the highly trained athlete would be less affected and with oxygen available the recovery should be pretty rapid. I would think the linemen would be most affected.

It literally almost killed Ryan Clark...

Bowser 10-21-2020 12:00 PM

Drew Lock's folks own Summit Grille, which is an amazing place for food and drinks.

That's all I got.

Bowser 10-21-2020 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 15263396)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Watkins, Schwartz, Okafor and Taco Charlton will not practice for Chiefs today.</p>&mdash; Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamteicher/status/1318957821606699008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sit both Watkins and Schwartz this week and hope one of Okafor or Charlton can go.

Mecca 10-21-2020 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 15263611)
Drew Lock's folks own Summit Grille, which is an amazing place for food and drinks.

That's all I got.

I've been there a few times, pretty good.

TIED5573 10-21-2020 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15263609)
It literally almost killed Ryan Clark...



After a short search on the Google, it's pretty well documented about the advantage. The one article indicates it would take approximately 11 days to fully acclimate.
Hence the reason the Olympic training center is in Colorado Springs.

Megatron96 10-21-2020 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15263570)
I'm sure you can find some guys after they retired talking about it, but it's not something anyone talks about when they're playing, I think it's a mental thing.

Um, altitude isn't a mental thing, it's definitely physical. There's literally a little less oxygen at higher altitudes. Roughly, there's about 4% less O2 at 5,000 ft. vs. sea level. Doesn't sound like much, but air is only 21% oxygen in the first place. So playing at DEN means a visiting player must perform with only 80% of the O2 his body is normally used to.

Less O2 means your muscles will burn through the available O2 faster, and it will take longer for your body to reaccumulate it. So lactic acid production and build-up are both going to happen faster.

In other words, you get tired quicker and it takes longer to recover. At the beginning of a game, highly trained athletes won't notice this as much as a regular person might, but it's cumulative, so by the 2nd half (or earlier for fatties) is when they probably really notice it.

However, if you live at higher altitudes, your body becomes accustomed to making do with less O2. It takes a few weeks for your body to produce the extra red blood cells. So Broncos players don't feel the effects as soon or as much as a visiting player.

That's why playing at Mile High is such an advantage for DEN.

Mecca 10-21-2020 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15263662)
Um, altitude isn't a mental thing, it's definitely physical. There's literally a little less oxygen at higher altitudes. Roughly, there's about 4% less O2 at 5,000 ft. vs. sea level. Doesn't sound like much, but air is only 21% oxygen in the first place.

Less O2 means your muscles will burn through the available O2 faster, and it will take longer for your body to reaccumulate it. So lactic acid production and build-up are both going to happen faster.

In other words, you get tired quicker and it takes longer to recover. At the beginning of a game, highly trained athletes won't notice this as much as a regular person might, but it's cumulative, so by the 2nd half (or earlier for fatties) is when they probably really notice it.

However, if you live at higher altitudes, your body becomes accustomed to making do with less O2. It takes a few weeks for your body to produce the extra red blood cells. So Broncos players don't feel the effects as soon or as much as a visiting player.

That's why playing at Mile High is such an advantage for DEN.

I mean it's mental in the sense that players try to ignore it while they're playing.

siberian khatru 10-21-2020 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 15263611)
Drew Lock's folks own Summit Grille, which is an amazing place for food and drinks.

That's all I got.

I caught a pass from Drew Lock at the Super Bowl Experience in Miami.

Then I told him I had beers with his father and Micah Wilson's father when I covered them at Mizzou in 1987. He thought that was great.

That's all I got.

GingaChief 10-21-2020 12:24 PM

So CEH will be rushing for 300 yards due to the snow?

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 10-21-2020 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GingaChief (Post 15263708)
So CEH will be rushing for 300 yards due to the snow?

They don’t call him “Snowtime” Mahomes for nothing


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