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Skyy God 09-30-2022 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 16498172)
Any chance that the "back injury" designation was to avoid the concussion protocol entirely?

1,000,000%

BWillie 09-30-2022 06:22 PM

I find it hard to believe anyone with the Dolphins intentionally tried to circumvent the concussion protocol. Dont you go through independent doctors? Its possible its not even the Dolphins or NFLs fault.

HonestChieffan 09-30-2022 06:25 PM

Its all about the money

Tua needs to retire before he is McMahon

And the coach and staff at the dolphins need to pay

Sick bastards all

KChiefs1 09-30-2022 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16498118)
Dolphins were wrong in this situation but it’s also true that Tua is a broke dick… can’t stay healthy.


Dolphins would be crazy to have future plans with him as their QB.


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CatfishBob2 09-30-2022 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16497815)
Somebody on social media posted a GIF this morning that showed him going "out" before he hit the ground.

I wish I could find it. I've been looking all over twitter and youtube, everyone thinks he was violently slammed to the ground. I haven't found a different opinion yet

MagicHef 09-30-2022 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16498193)
I find it hard to believe anyone with the Dolphins intentionally tried to circumvent the concussion protocol. Dont you go through independent doctors? Its possible its not even the Dolphins or NFLs fault.

It would be a career ender now with all the media attention, but I don’t see another reason to list it as a back injury.

DrunkBassGuitar 09-30-2022 07:32 PM

make this forum automatically parse twitter links:

https://twitter.com/KingJosiah54/sta...68603895083008

SupDock 09-30-2022 07:36 PM

Honestly, Tua probably misled the professionals. He has a lot to lose by sitting. The Dolphins have tried to shop him several times.

BWillie 09-30-2022 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 16498266)
Honestly, Tua probably misled the professionals. He has a lot to lose by sitting. The Dolphins have tried to shop him several times.

It's never the employee's fault. It's 2022 man. How can you even insinuate such a thing. It's always the big businesses fault

Chief Pagan 09-30-2022 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 16498266)
Honestly, Tua probably misled the professionals. He has a lot to lose by sitting. The Dolphins have tried to shop him several times.

Come on, those protocols are based on the assumption that players are going to try and game things to get back on the field.

If Tua could just 'mislead' professionals, the protocol would be pretty worthless.

chiefzilla1501 09-30-2022 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16498193)
I find it hard to believe anyone with the Dolphins intentionally tried to circumvent the concussion protocol. Dont you go through independent doctors? Its possible its not even the Dolphins or NFLs fault.

I don’t think they intentionally tried to circumvent protocol.

I do think they believe the bare minimum passing grade is enough to justify playing a guy.

I also believe the back injury is going to be used as an excuse to sit him this coming week so they can sit him without admitting he probably had a concussion.

Abba-Dabba 09-30-2022 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 16498266)
Honestly, Tua probably misled the professionals. He has a lot to lose by sitting. The Dolphins have tried to shop him several times.

Possibly. But it is also possible they knew he was being misleading as well.

What doctor will sign off on him to go back on the field after what we saw last night? Would you want to be the one?

Abba-Dabba 09-30-2022 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16498280)
It's never the employee's fault. It's 2022 man. How can you even insinuate such a thing. It's always the big businesses fault

It's also the business's responsibility to protect it's assets and interests and what benefit they may be to the business in the future.

SupDock 09-30-2022 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 16498284)
Come on, those protocols are based on the assumption that players are going to try and game things to get back on the field.

If Tua could just 'mislead' professionals, the protocol would be pretty worthless.

There are definitely objective components, but if, for instance he said that his back locked up causing him to stumble, and he passed other tests, he may have circumvented the protocol.

If he said he his head hurt, it probably doesn’t matter that he passed the protocol because of his stumbling after.

SupDock 09-30-2022 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RubberSponge (Post 16498317)
It's also the business's responsibility to protect it's assets and interests and what benefit they may be to the business in the future.

Definitely, it’s just a lot tougher to catch all cases when the patient is attempting to mislead you.

I’m shocked he returned last week at half, and it’s hard to imagine who signed off on that.

Dr Chao immediately tweeted there was no way he comes back, just based on his behavior after the hit. Yet he came back.



I’m also of the opinion, that to protect their decision, they could not have held him out this week. otherwise, how do you explain him going back in the game last week


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