Uh, wasn't Carr actually running away from CJ? As in he knew damned well that he was about to be sacked/tackled, which would explain why he was RUNNING AWAY? Then, and again try to keep up, CJ knocked the ball out of his hands right before he makes bodily contact with Carr, right? So no ball, which means Carr can't possibly be a passer anymore right? Can't throw a ball if you don't actually have one to throw, right?

Ack, I'm done with this; it's like talking to a baboon's ass. On to the Bills.

Suggest you get your eyes checked.

If you think Carr was running then you are the only person on earth who thinks that, just like Cheffer is the only person on earth who thinks it was roughing.

Don't think I can take your lessons on tackling any more if thats your definition of running.

At this point, im kinda thankful that "hold" kept another roughing the passer penalty from being called.

On a potential game changing play the ref needs to be 100% confident he is 100% correct on the call.

The only person involved in that game that came to conclusion that was a roughing penalty was the referee.

Does anyone remember that Chiefs at Pats game a few years back.I can't remember which Chiefs player it was,maybe a linebacker.He let up on sacking or tackling Brady,cause he thought he was already down or something and i think they scored on that play.For some reason i just remembered that.

Speaks. Grabbed Brady then let him go because he was afraid to get flagged.

This whole thing smacks of a few years ago when the NFL decided to crack down on roughing the QB, and Clay Matthews got flagged like 4 weeks in a row. A couple of those sacks looked very similar to what CJ did last night.

Hopefully the refs will calm the hell down like they did before and this particular issue will go away again.

Otherwise, if they keep this nonsense up, it may work in our favor ultimately. I mean, if you can't actually touch the QB, what's the point in drafting or paying for premier pass rushers?

Lol, even your QB didn't think it was roughing:
https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/st...80167299252227

Do you have a point? No one thinks it was roughing. That still doesn't excuse your sorry ass explanation for how it went down with your reeruned arrogance.

Now pay attention here because it's important. If you think Carr was running in an attempt to avoid being hit you are a ****ing moron.

Thing is this play wasn’t close to being a penalty. I know the rule subjective but it shouldn’t be that hard.

Roughing the passer is like porn, no need to define it, you know it when you see it.

florio and simms had a great segment. Hadn’t thought about all the ways this call was ****ed up.

Obviously the roughing call was bogus. Mostly because he braced himself to avoid full body force.
Play should have been reviewable to review the fumble. Neither the refs or NY did a review.
Even if it was roughing at worst it should have been chiefs ball, 1st and 25

You don't know CP well then. That horse is gonna be dead 1000 times over and still won't get to rest peacefully.

exactly. Cheffers is a joke.

Knowing the NFL its gonna get scrambled even more. They can make it reviewable then it will go to NY to decide among lawyers what is best for the league. They will make the right cover our ass call.

Even offensive players know this situation is far from tenable...

https://scontent.fdsm1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...kQ&oe=634C17A1

I forrget. Is Chris going to get fined as well for RTP? Because in the past that was part of it; a player that drew a RTP flag would also get fined.