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Chris Meck 01-14-2023 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16732825)
darrel williams disagrees

Yeah, but Darrel was a plodder. Mckinnon is fast and shifty. Darrel wasn't going to burn your for a long one one a screen or a pass to the flat.

Hammock Parties 01-14-2023 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16732872)
Yeah, but Darrel was a plodder. Mckinnon is fast and shifty. Darrel wasn't going to burn your for a long one one a screen or a pass to the flat.

yes, but as far as pure targets, i don't think that matters in the discussion, which is why i didn't include it

chiefs RB targets didn't change noticeably year over year

philfree 01-14-2023 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16732872)
Yeah, but Darrel was a plodder. Mckinnon is fast and shifty. Darrel wasn't going to burn your for a long one one a screen or a pass to the flat.

McKinnon had more targets, more receptions, more yards and a lot more TDs. He's more of a receiver then he is a RB.

CasselGotPeedOn 01-14-2023 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16732775)
The Chiefs trading Tyreek for all those draft picks plus cap space is like trading a zit on your face for a free trip to Belize

A real trip to Belize?

R Clark 01-14-2023 01:56 PM

McKinnon has been a blessing and to think he wasn’t signed till way late

Chief Pagan 01-14-2023 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 16732896)
A real trip to Belize?

With a cherry on top?

Plealize.

Skyy God 01-14-2023 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 16732896)
A real trip to Belize?

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 16733062)
With a cherry on top?

Plealize.

Again, I will provide plenty of proof of the Belize trip to the mod of my choice to shut you dumb****s up.

ThyKingdomCome15 01-14-2023 03:29 PM

Juju in the slot has been really good as well. He's having one of his better years.

Megatron96 01-14-2023 03:29 PM

More about the 2021 supporting cast, or lack thereof, vs. the 2022 supporting cast, than Hill by himself. Last year, it was Hill, Hardman, and then a bunch of JAGs (or worse). This year, No Hill, but the entire WR room is better, even Skyy, than Kemp, Pringle, DRob, and whoever. And Toney might be a virtual 1-for-1 vs. Hill on all those short- to intermediate routes to convert 3rd downs with his quickness and agility, which is more important than sheer speed anyway.

KCJake 01-14-2023 03:45 PM

What's with all the Belize talk? I've got a buddy headed over there in a month

Megatron96 01-14-2023 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJake (Post 16733132)
What's with all the Belize talk? I've got a buddy headed over there in a month

There is no Belize . . .

Bl00dyBizkitz 01-14-2023 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16733095)
More about the 2021 supporting cast, or lack thereof, vs. the 2022 supporting cast, than Hill by himself. Last year, it was Hill, Hardman, and then a bunch of JAGs (or worse). This year, No Hill, but the entire WR room is better, even Skyy, than Kemp, Pringle, DRob, and whoever. And Toney might be a virtual 1-for-1 vs. Hill on all those short- to intermediate routes to convert 3rd downs with his quickness and agility, which is more important than sheer speed anyway.

Mahomes is having one of his best years too. Hill felt like a crutch the last couple years and he wasn't developing as a QB like he should. Now, his decision making is impeccable, his 10 yard dropkick are nonexistent, he doesn't run from clean pockets nearly as much, he rarely makes mistakes, and yet he's still taking risks and making Mahomes plays on the regular. He's ascended even further, its unbelievable.

Megatron96 01-14-2023 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 16733222)
Mahomes is having one of his best years too. Hill felt like a crutch the last couple years and he wasn't developing as a QB like he should. Now, his decision making is impeccable, his 10 yard dropkick are nonexistent, he doesn't run from clean pockets nearly as much, he rarely makes mistakes, and yet he's still taking risks and making Mahomes plays on the regular. He's ascended even further, its unbelievable.

Mahomes is definitely having a great year. I'd pump the brakes a little on the 'impeccable' decision-making, but agree with the rest. Helps a ton when he can trust that his receivers will run the right routes and be in the right places, plus catch the ball most of the time as well. Last year it seemed like he'd get frustrated with the WR4/5/6 just failing consistently in those areas, and say to himself, "screw it, where's Kelce/Hill?"

This year, that's happened in a few spots/games, but mostly he's been able to spread the ball around and not get into those mental traps.

Chris Meck 01-14-2023 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 16733071)
Again, I will provide plenty of proof of the Belize trip to the mod of my choice to shut you dumb****s up.

why would that shut anyone up? Just post the vaca pics.

tredadda 01-14-2023 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 16733071)
Again, I will provide plenty of proof of the Belize trip to the mod of my choice to shut you dumb****s up.

Belize it when we see it.


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