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dirk digler 11-07-2022 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16586289)
Points are the only thing that matter IMHO. 21 points per game in the 5 "struggle" games I mentioned against AFC teams. That low rate of scoring is similar to the 20th best offense in the NFL. They scored over 40 points per game in the 3 strong games against the NFC.

I don't think it's too much to hope for 27-30 points per game against AFC opponents. They are capable of this, but they aren't doing it so far this year. Gotta find a way to be better in the later part of the season against AFC teams, especially the playoffs. Do you think 21 points per game will be good enough in playoff games against teams with explosive offenses like Cincy, Miami, or Buffalo?
The other correlation you could make is the low scoring games have come at home mostly.

HemiEd 11-07-2022 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 16585131)
Cris Collinsworth was praising Wylie last night multiple times.

That's some Bizarro World shit right there.
Yep, multiple times. I caught myself wondering what his motivation might be? Relative?

Been a fan of his clear back to when he was a WR and know he knows a lot more about the game than I do, and maybe even more than some others on CP.

DRM08 11-07-2022 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16586310)
The other correlation you could make is the low scoring games have come at home mostly.
Yeah, that's been an interesting trend with the Chiefs for a number of years.

Couch-Potato 11-07-2022 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16586291)
Shut up about Saquon. I've had wet dreams about him in this offense, and consciously master-bated more than a few times thinking about it, but it will never happen. Can't afford a high-dollar RB on this team for the foreseeable future.
That's not exactly true. I saw in another thread we have the capability of extending/adjusting contracts to produce $60-$100m in cap space next year. That's one of the contributing factors to my interest.

DRM08 11-07-2022 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16586322)
That's not exactly true. I saw in another thread we have the capability of extending/adjusting contracts to produce $60-$100m in cap space next year. That's one of the contributing factors to my interest.
Spend the money on the OL & defense. The OL needs to be a hell of a lot better for the run game to improve.

dirk digler 11-07-2022 03:12 PM
Didn't know this but we had the most drops of any team this year in this game.

dirk digler 11-07-2022 03:14 PM
oh..Sam McDowell is saying on Petro that ESPN now tracks WR's getting open and MVS is next to last in the league right in front of AJ Green.

:eek:

Chris Meck 11-07-2022 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 16585559)
You guys are blowing up Wylie and not looking at the Titans secondary. Our receivers weren't separating. I don't care how good the OL is. If there's nowhere to go with the ball then you're equally dead. Mahomes took advantage of their backs being back to him late in the game. That and the aggressive edge rusher losing contain because they were looking to end it.

Andy said he thought they looking pretty good in pass protection but the running game... not so much.
Wylie blows goats, and nothing you or anyone else can say is going to convince me otherwise.

Nightfyre 11-07-2022 03:21 PM
One quick add on to this thread: there is a lot of blame flying at individual chiefs here, but the other team gets paid too. The titans Dline is crazy deep and good. Their linebackers played incredibly and their secondary was in receivers' pockets all night. For all the hype about the chiefs playing the best defenses in weeks prior, this was the best defense they have played. I tip the cap to Vrabel and the titans. Literally the 90s chiefs.

Pitt Gorilla 11-07-2022 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16586322)
That's not exactly true. I saw in another thread we have the capability of extending/adjusting contracts to produce $60-$100m in cap space next year. That's one of the contributing factors to my interest.
Barkley isn't running through the non-existent holes, either.

Pitt Gorilla 11-07-2022 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 16586374)
One quick add on to this thread: there is a lot of blame flying at individual chiefs here, but the other team gets paid too. The titans Dline is crazy deep and good. Their linebackers played incredibly and their secondary was in receivers' pockets all night. For all the hype about the chiefs playing the best defenses in weeks prior, this was the best defense they have played. I tip the cap to Vrabel and the titans. Literally the 90s chiefs.
Agree completely. That defense was stout, better than the Bills, 49ers, Chargers.

DJ's left nut 11-07-2022 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 16586173)
With Karlaftis work ethic I really don't see bust being a label he could earn. He will take time, absolutely but he will have every bit as good a career as Tamba had IMO.
Tamba was nearly a 100 sack guy.

That's an ABSURDLY high bar.

I mean if the guy manages 50-60 career sacks, that's pretty acceptable to me. I mean if he's Kyle Vanden Bosch you take that 100 times out of 100.

Buehler445 11-07-2022 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16586246)
Defenses are playing much better this year. Any ideas why?
Like most other things in life, it is a confluence of complicated answers full of nuance.

The reality is each team is different and there is a lot going on. The fact is, if 1 team goes to shit it is 3.125% of the league.

Green Bay trading Adams and Rodgers quitting is 3.125% of the league.
Tom Brady finally getting old is 3.125%
Baker being a bag of shit is 3.125%
Russ being a bag of shit (ROFL **** Donk Forever ROFL) is 3.125%
Herbert breaking his self is 3.125%
Dumb**** Carr coming apart at the seams is 3.125%
9ers inexplicably sticking to Trey Lance and trying to **** over Garoppollo is 3.125%
NO - whatever the **** is going on down there is 3.125%
The wheels coming off the Brother****ing Cheatriot ****bags is 3.125%
Indy was somehow better with Carson Wentz (ROFL) is another 3.125%

And those are the easy ones. That's 28% of the league just having weird shit happen.

Best22 11-07-2022 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16586191)
The Chiefs offense has struggled in 5 of 8 games. That's 5 games against AFC opponents where they scored about 21 points per game, excluding Justin Herbert's Pick 6. The only 3 games where the Chiefs offense looked great was against NFC opponents. That's great for a potential Super Bowl matchup against a NFC team, but what about making it through the AFC playoffs? 21 points per game against AFC opponents is a bad trend.

Mahomes, the OL, the RB's, the receivers, and the coaches need to find a way to have much stronger performance in the later part of this season, especially the AFC playoffs. 21 points per game against the likes of Buffalo, Miami, or Cincy is going to prevent you from reaching a Super Bowl. They're damn lucky the Titans had a struggling backup QB or they probably lose that game last night against Tannehill.
That’s because most of our games against the AFC have been at home, where the offense is less explosive and always has been in the Mahomes era

And I wouldn’t call our offensive effort against the Raiders “a struggle”. 30 points in a comeback win is pretty good

The offense gained 387 yards against the Bills elite defense, but a red zone turnover and a questionable OPI kept us from scoring more points against a great defense

I agree the offense struggled to move the ball and get rhythm against LAC, IND, and TEN.

DJ's left nut 11-07-2022 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 16586438)
That’s because most of our games against the AFC have been at home, where the offense is less explosive and always has been in the Mahomes era

And I wouldn’t call our offensive effort against the Raiders “a struggle”. 30 points in a comeback win is pretty good

The offense gained 387 yards against the Bills elite defense, but a red zone turnover and a questionable OPI kept us from scoring more points against a great defense

I agree the offense struggled to move the ball and get rhythm against LAC, IND, and TEN.
Indy was a road game.

And LAC has Derwin James, who has been hell on us since he came into the league.


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