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staylor26 07-31-2024 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 17610363)
Not good.. This is a concern. Andy will get him in motion and hopefully avoid these situations.

It's literally one ****ing rep where one guy knocked him off balance and a LB cleaned him up.

We all just saw this happen to Tyreek in the playoffs. It means nothing.

staylor26 07-31-2024 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 17610366)
Looks like Sneed jamming Hill in the playoffs, lol.

Beat me to it.

Kman34 07-31-2024 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17610368)
It's literally one ****ing rep where one guy knocked him off balance and a LB cleaned him up.

We all just saw this happen to Tyreek in the playoffs. It means nothing.

I agree but this will be a strategy that will be deployed by defenses.. It really is a risky move because if he beats it.. Its a big play..

Probably an over reaction by me..

ThyKingdomCome15 07-31-2024 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17610351)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Xavier Worthy against press. <a href="https://t.co/SbvC66qCiU">pic.twitter.com/SbvC66qCiU</a></p>&mdash; Boorish (@Boorish_Sports) <a href="https://twitter.com/Boorish_Sports/status/1818687092710346878?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 31, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yeah that was in his college tape. If he can shake a little contact we already know he can bake. It's quite the gamble for the DB to play that far up. If you don't get a good jam you're in his highlight reel.

dlphg9 07-31-2024 10:19 PM

Guys are only gonna be able to jam him like that in certain plays and it's gonna lead to him blowing by a guy who is in man coverage against him. Not concerned at all.

In that video that LB isn't able to recover after he does that hit.

Basileus777 08-01-2024 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 17610376)
I agree but this will be a strategy that will be deployed by defenses.. It really is a risky move because if he beats it.. Its a big play..

Probably an over reaction by me..

Most teams don't have the corners to play much press, it's something that could be an issue in certain matchups, but not a huge deal. No one thinks Worthy is going to be a traditional X receiver.

Buehler445 08-01-2024 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 17610473)
Most teams don't have the corners to play much press, it's something that could be an issue in certain matchups, but not a huge deal. No one thinks Worthy is going to be a traditional X receiver.

Yeah and provided everyone is healthy they’re going to have to count on the other corner pressing and staying with Brown.

Honestly I think we’ll see a lot of 2 deep and very little press man. Spags is on our side.

crispystl 08-01-2024 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 17610506)
Yeah and provided everyone is healthy they’re going to have to count on the other corner pressing and staying with Brown.

Honestly I think we’ll see a lot of 2 deep and very little press man. Spags is on our side.

I think we will too. Defenses are going to have to pick their poison against us and they're going to settle for trying to keep everything in front of them and playing bend don't break.

ThaVirus 08-01-2024 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17610351)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Xavier Worthy against press. <a href="https://t.co/SbvC66qCiU">pic.twitter.com/SbvC66qCiU</a></p>&mdash; Boorish (@Boorish_Sports) <a href="https://twitter.com/Boorish_Sports/status/1818687092710346878?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 31, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That’ll make him finding work in the red zone more difficult if we don’t put him in motion

Dunerdr 08-01-2024 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17610510)
That’ll make him finding work in the red zone more difficult if we don’t put him in motion

Andy Reid is the king of pre snap. We have a wizard at Qb and if they put their big physical corner on Worthy to bully him Rice and Kelce have a more favorable matchup. A lot of chicken littles in this thread. Teams tried jamming Tyreek early on. This too shall pass.

Rausch 08-01-2024 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 17610506)
Yeah and provided everyone is healthy they’re going to have to count on the other corner pressing and staying with Brown.

Honestly I think we’ll see a lot of 2 deep and very little press man. Spags is on our side.

Yup. There's fewer true "shut down" and press man corners than ever. Everyone wants to prevent the deep stuff with zones in the pass happy NFL. Once you put all that speed out there to stay with these Indy Car WR's you get mauled by TE's and the running game.

After adding all this speed and multiple deep threats I would have loved to add a change of pace phat back. Some later round poor man's Gus Edwards type to beat up on DB's.

Dunerdr 08-01-2024 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 17610522)
Yup. There's fewer true "shut down" and press man corners than ever. Everyone wants to prevent the deep stuff with zones in the pass happy NFL. Once you put all that speed out there to stay with these Indy Car WR's you get mauled by TE's and the running game.

After adding all this speed and multiple deep threats I would have loved to add a change of pace phat back. Some later round poor man's Gus Edwards type to beat up on DB's.

Not many have enough to press Hollywood and Worthy at the same time. Press our 4.22 guy? Heres a 4.3/4 guy. Oh and Rice and Kelce.

Dunerdr 08-01-2024 06:02 AM

As long as you don't have a one read QB like Miami, press isn't that big of a deal.

Rausch 08-01-2024 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17610526)
As long as you don't have a one read QB like Miami, press isn't that big of a deal.

It is if you get pressed to Belieze like Hill did. It's a lot harder to throw open a WR that's on his ass...

ThaVirus 08-01-2024 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17610518)
Andy Reid is the king of pre snap. We have a wizard at Qb and if they put their big physical corner on Worthy to bully him Rice and Kelce have a more favorable matchup. A lot of chicken littles in this thread. Teams tried jamming Tyreek early on. This too shall pass.

I’m not worried about it, but it seems Reid likes to bring Kelce in motion at the snap and you can’t have both him and Worthy moving at the same time. At some point, Worthy will need to work on not getting manhandled at the LoS on his own.

Also, for the record, Tyreek was like 5’8” 185 to Worthy's 5’11” 165. There is a massive difference in weight/build, and presumably strength, between the two.


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