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pugsnotdrugs19 12-16-2024 11:41 AM

Kelce wide ass open for 15+ on that shot to Worthy yesterday.

That’s one where you can’t tell me he didn’t pre-determine where he was throwing it. That’s so unlike Pat.

mr. tegu 12-16-2024 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17861549)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mahomes&#39; deep ball in 2022 vs 2024.<br><br>22 - Seems more decisive, fluid, w/ anticipation & in rhythm.<br><br>24 - Uncertain, trying to place the ball, rushed, and &quot;see it, throw it&quot; <a href="https://t.co/ZnhxeMjSEi">pic.twitter.com/ZnhxeMjSEi</a></p>— Matt Lane (@Matty_KCSN) <a href="https://twitter.com/Matty_KCSN/status/1868701409941897325?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 16, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


That first one to Worthy for 2024 from yesterday was so bad. It’s a pass you know you are doing from the start and it was terribly overthrown. It’s the same one I posted pictures of earlier. And of course all of those 2024 misses were perfect pockets but those don’t count as good protection or something I guess.

RunKC 12-16-2024 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17861223)
Yeah, he focused on Rice, he was always open.

This whole "spread it around to weapons" thing alot of times is speak for "we don't have anyone good so throw it to everyone".

Rice was giving Mahomes what Kelce used to give him. Losing Rashee was devastating for this offense.

I love Kelce to death but he’s not what he was. He’s not breaking tackles for YAC, he’s not consistently beating man coverage. I think Mahomes being off is an underlying Kelce problem. He used to be in a spot where the ball is but now he’s not getting there as fast and it results in a missed throw.

There’s no juice on the offense aside from Worthy and sometimes Pacheco. Kelce, Hopkins, Watson, Juju, Kareem. These guys are old and slow now and it’s painfully obvious.

We need Hollywood back in the worst way

mr. tegu 12-16-2024 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17861562)
Kelce wide ass open for 15+ on that shot to Worthy yesterday.

That’s one where you can’t tell me he didn’t pre-determine where he was throwing it. That’s so unlike Pat.


Why would he not? It was probably called for Worthy, it was first down, and Worthy was pretty much wide open as well. You have to throw that ball.

Mecca 12-16-2024 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17861565)
That first one to Worthy for 2024 from yesterday was so bad. It’s a pass you know you are doing from the start and it was terribly overthrown. It’s the same one I posted pictures of earlier. And of course all of those 2024 misses were perfect pockets but those don’t count as good protection or something I guess.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">These are gone from the lexicon entirely. <a href="https://t.co/3kVQfSBOFK">pic.twitter.com/3kVQfSBOFK</a></p>&mdash; Matt Lane (@Matty_KCSN) <a href="https://twitter.com/Matty_KCSN/status/1868706934410650039?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 16, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

FloridaMan88 12-16-2024 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17861549)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mahomes&#39; deep ball in 2022 vs 2024.<br><br>22 - Seems more decisive, fluid, w/ anticipation &amp; in rhythm.<br><br>24 - Uncertain, trying to place the ball, rushed, and &quot;see it, throw it&quot; <a href="https://t.co/ZnhxeMjSEi">pic.twitter.com/ZnhxeMjSEi</a></p>&mdash; Matt Lane (@Matty_KCSN) <a href="https://twitter.com/Matty_KCSN/status/1868701409941897325?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 16, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hopefully it’s like a three point shooter in a cold streak… just needing to see one go through the basket… Mahomes just needs to hit on one of these deep throws to start getting over this mental hurdle.

Mecca 12-16-2024 11:46 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Also kinda funny... of the Chiefs ~35 throws over 20 yards, 16 have been to Worthy.</p>&mdash; Matt Lane (@Matty_KCSN) <a href="https://twitter.com/Matty_KCSN/status/1868701870702895199?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 16, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sassy Squatch 12-16-2024 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17861562)
Kelce wide ass open for 15+ on that shot to Worthy yesterday.

That’s one where you can’t tell me he didn’t pre-determine where he was throwing it. That’s so unlike Pat.

Happened multiple times. Either Pat was going full reerun or the coaching staff was. Absolutely no reason to dial up repeated deep shots when you're up multiple scores playing with an LG at LT. Unfortunately they actually got bit by doing it as well.

Otter 12-16-2024 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17861462)
Meh, it's been an issue this year without having to state all the obvious things like how nobody here is saying* we need a better QB or he's no longer the one QB you want on your team, etc.



*that's what GDTs are for LMAO

I'm rooting for Patrick as much as anyone but I can imagine how it's easy to become content after 2 super bows, kids, and being financially set for life.

Never thought I'd see this level of success and Squirmin Herman Edwards owes me free wedgie for almost killing my spirit.

Mecca 12-16-2024 11:48 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mahomes used to be the boogeyman vs the blitz.. and now? Feels like a total dice roll if they even get a pass off.</p>&mdash; Matt Lane (@Matty_KCSN) <a href="https://twitter.com/Matty_KCSN/status/1868394131560743018?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 15, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RunKC 12-16-2024 11:51 AM

Begging you guys to watch the game and focus on our receivers. Kelce is NOT the same Kelce from 2022. He’s 35. He’s clearly lost a step.

The pass to Kelce looked slightly off. It really looks like Mahomes is used to throwing to a spot Kelce used to be in and now he’s not getting there as fast.

Seriously. Watch Kelce specifically. He’s slowed down A LOT

IowaHawkeyeChief 12-16-2024 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 17861582)
I'm rooting for Patrick as much as anyone but I can imagine how it's easy to become content after 2 super bows, kids, and being financially set for life.

Never thought I'd see this level of success and Squirmin Herman Edwards owes me free wedgie for almost killing my spirit.

What? Watch you whore mouth... 3 Superbowls.... ;)

pugsnotdrugs19 12-16-2024 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17861573)
Why would he not? It was probably called for Worthy, it was first down, and Worthy was pretty much wide open as well. You have to throw that ball.

That’s not wide open re: Worthy yesterday. Would’ve taken a perfect throw to avoid the safety on his backside and corner falling deep in front.

Just take the easy profit to Kelce.

RunKC 12-16-2024 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17861562)
Kelce wide ass open for 15+ on that shot to Worthy yesterday.

That’s one where you can’t tell me he didn’t pre-determine where he was throwing it. That’s so unlike Pat.

Watch Mahomes head. He never turns it. It’s a 1 read play through and through.

That tells me Andy is specifically wanting him to work on his deep pass and he’s not doing progressions.

Again. Too much thinking.It’s reminding me of the line from Top Gun: Maverick. “Trust your instincts. Don’t think. Just do”

KCJake 12-16-2024 11:56 AM

Mahomes used to catch heat for "drifting back in the pocket." Technique wise it's not ideal, I get that. But it would buy him an extra second before the rush got to him and I wonder if he throws a better deep ball when he's drifting backwards a little.


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