Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17998251)

Jaguars and Titans gotta be two of the favorites in the Archie Manning sweepstakes.

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 18002946)

Meanwhile in Pittsburgh...

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 18003170)

This is probably going to get some push back and that's fine.

But I really think in hindsight, letting OBJr walk was the biggest mistake Veach has made up to this point.

No he wasn't an elite LT, but he was serviceable and the most important thing is that Patrick trusted him and was mentally able to play freely with him protecting his blindside.

I think we all thought that because he wasn't elite he was easily replaceable. This has not only proven to not be true, but the damage done to Mahomes psyche behind two years of subpar LT play has been by far the biggest consequence of this and is going to have to be undone, which may or may not be easy.

We should have overpaid for him and just called it good. And to be clear, I'm not slamming Veach for this. It seemed like a shrewd move at the time and hindsight makes it look worse.

But the moral of the story is you just don't mess around at LT. If Patrick trusts a guy, that's your guy and you should stick with him.

Really hoping Moore can provide that same level of comfort that Brown gave Patrick and we might be back on schedule.

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 18003305)

I still don’t get the cliche who thinks Patrick Mahomes forgot how to play QB and that Matt Nagy is a sharp play caller.


If we aren’t in the top ten for offense for the 3rd year in a row there people will just say it’s Mahomes.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 18003307)

Matt Nagy doesn't run the offense, Andy does.

And the evidence against Pat is voluminous and obvious. He HAS to play better or nothing will change.

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 18003310)

Yeah heard the same bullshit when they tried to make Skyy Moore or Toney a number 1 WR and Mahomes still led a terrible wr room to a SB win.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 18003311)

And yet he's been significantly worse since with better WRs than both of those guys. But that's because of playcalling!

You're almost there.

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 18003305)

I still don’t get the cliche who thinks Patrick Mahomes forgot how to play QB and that Matt Nagy is a sharp play caller.


If we aren’t in the top ten for offense for the 3rd year in a row there people will just say it’s Mahomes.

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 18003317)

Defenses have improved since 2018 and 2019. It's not just Mahomes playing worse. You have teams playing more of the two deep safety look. Also, teams used to take a naive approach against Mahomes before they learned of his tendencies and strengths.

The current version of Mahomes would play better if transported via time machine to 2018/2019. Meanwhile, the Mahomes from 2018/2019 wouldn't immediately dominate if transported to 2025. He'd have some learning to do first.

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 18003322)

You think our offensive play calling has been good the last two years?!

Just watch other NFL games like Coen last year with Tampa and Baker. Baker is a good QB but he ain’t Mahomes. Just easy wins over and over.

Our offense hasn’t done this since Nagy arrived.

The SB everyone including Mahomes sucked.

But the play calling wasn’t good. Philly knew our plays better than we did.


We need a reboot.

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 18003330)

I believe Andy Reid is the man behind the curtain. Not Nagy.

When something goes right offensively, Andy gets the credit first on the coaching staff. When the offensive performance sucks, everyone wants Nagy fired. I understand it's easier to call for Nagy's job than Reid's, but you can't have it both ways. Andy is not a defensive minded coach. He's the brains behind this offense. The Super Bowl loss is on him first.

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 18003337)

It doesn’t matter who actually is running the offense.


Our playbook is one of the worst in the NFL right now. How many 3 yard passes and goofy “trick” plays do you need to see before you are tired of it too?

SB Eagles defenders were running our routes for us.

As soon as our offense started calling all verticals and Mahomes ad libbed we got some deep shots completed.

Why was our offense so bad on 1st and 2nd down but good on 3rd down and end of game?!

That’s clearly showing it’s a scheme issue and the QB is making it work.

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 18003337)

It doesn’t matter who actually is running the offense.


Our playbook is one of the worst in the NFL right now. How many 3 yard passes and goofy “trick” plays do you need to see before you are tired of it too?

SB Eagles defenders were running our routes for us.

As soon as our offense started calling all verticals and Mahomes ad libbed we got some deep shots completed.

Why was our offense so bad on 1st and 2nd down but good on 3rd down and end of game?!

That’s clearly showing it’s a scheme issue and the QB is making it work.