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Rausch 03-07-2012 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8425020)
plus, if he signs with the Chiefs he gets to play the Colts at Arrowhead this season.

This is important.

No SB would be complete without getting to trounce the Colts and Donks...

SPATCH 03-07-2012 12:12 PM

Blurb from Jason Smith that just went up on nfl.com

Chiefs emerging as perfect fit for Peyton
The two front-runners are Miami and Arizona. The Jets will get some run, as well. But, like my colleague Elliot Harrison recently wrote, I have a feeling that Kansas City is the team that can give him everything he desires. He's a Midwest guy. He doesn't want to be overcome by media. He wants to play against teams he knows, and he wants a path to winning.

No one is poised to run away with the AFC West. San Diego has won by default for the most part lately. Add Manning to a K.C. team with Dwayne Bowe, Steve Breaston, Dexter McCluster, a healthy Tony Moeaki and a healthy Jamaal Charles? That would look a lot like the makeup of the Colts' offense in their heyday. K.C.'s defense is better than people think. Romeo Crennel has already said the Chiefs are interested.

I think Manning wants his life to most closely resemble what it was in Indianapolis. I'm sure Joe Montana is on the phone with him right now telling him what it was like to play in K.C. after getting pushed out of San Francisco. Sound familiar?

Mr. Laz 03-07-2012 12:14 PM

Another reason why i think they Chiefs should sign Manning.

Hard work

I think Manning would bring a focus and a level of hard work to the offense that we haven't seen in a decade.

Our offense isn't nearly has sharp and developed as it should be. Hasn't been in years.

Rausch 03-07-2012 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8425078)
Another reason why i think they Chiefs should sign Manning.

Hard work

I think Manning would bring a focus and a level of hard work to the offense that we haven't seen in a decade.

Our offense isn't nearly has sharp and developed as it should be. Hasn't been in years.

ANYTHING that pushes C@$$#ole out of here I'm in favor of...

talastan 03-07-2012 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8425078)
Another reason why i think they Chiefs should sign Manning.

Hard work

I think Manning would bring a focus and a level of hard work to the offense that we haven't seen in a decade.

Our offense isn't nearly has sharp and developed as it should be. Hasn't been in years.


Imagine the first time Bowe dropped an easy pass that hit him in the hands. Peyton would bench Bowe himself.

Mr_Tomahawk 03-07-2012 12:19 PM

can anyone embed this video?

http://t.co/suT5e6jT

Their site is pulling up for me...

O.city 03-07-2012 12:20 PM

Imagine Arrowhead on Sundays and Monday nights if Manning is under center.

Molitoth 03-07-2012 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8425019)
whats tenessees situation? they have cap room?

Peyton hates the Titans.... he's not going there.

jd1020 03-07-2012 12:21 PM

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L.A. Chieffan 03-07-2012 12:21 PM

4 pm eastern peyton can sign with new team

bevischief 03-07-2012 12:22 PM

Report: San Francisco 49ers Not Interested In Peyton Manning
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Despite the urging of the former star wide receiver Jerry Rice, the San Francisco 49ers will not attempt to sign quarterback Peyton Manning, according to NFL.com.

The 49ers, instead, are intent on re-signing Alex Smith. A contract for Smith has already been placed on the table by San Francisco, sources have told NFL.com. Smith has the same agent as Manning, Tom Condon.

Rice had told the Marin Independent Journal that if Manning were available, the 49ers should attempt to sign him.

“I think you go for it,” Rice told the Paper. “A guy of that talent, you’ve got everything in place. You’ve got a defense that smacks you in the mouth. You just need a little more out of the offense. That’s not knocking what Alex (Smith) did. (Manning) can take you to a whole different level.”

Smith was selected by the 49ers with the No. 1 overall pick in the 2005 NFL draft, but until the 2011 season he had generally been considered a disappointment. Last year, under the tutelage of new 49ers head coach Jim Harbaugh, Smith had the best year of his career. In 16 games he completed 61.3 percent of his passes, threw for 3,144 yards, and collected 17 passing touchdowns

http://tracking.si.com/2012/03/07/re...?sct=nfl_t2_a4

ChiefFripp 03-07-2012 12:26 PM

I really don't see him going to The Broncos.

Shag 03-07-2012 12:37 PM

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Manning is repped by CAA. Wouldn't expect him to land anywhere with an in-place QB also repped by CAA. Includes SF, KC, JAX, DEN, OAK, BUF.

That's a ridiculous supposition...

Mr. Laz 03-07-2012 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by talastan (Post 8425088)
Imagine the first time Bowe dropped an easy pass that hit him in the hands. Peyton would bench Bowe himself.

imagine the first time Bowe/Baldwin ran the wrong route on 3rd down and just short of shrugged and smiled as the walked over to the sideline.

Manning would explode


i'm so sick of that shit

I'm not sure Barry Richardson would survive the preseason with his dumbass shit.

Thig Lyfe 03-07-2012 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8424865)
If we were to break down a list, position by position, coach by coach, KC would be the best fit for Manning.

Problem is, I don't think Pioli wants Manning that bad. I think he's ok with rolling Matt Cassel out there.

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htismaqe 03-07-2012 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by the_spatula (Post 8425059)
Blurb from Jason Smith that just went up on nfl.com

Chiefs emerging as perfect fit for Peyton
The two front-runners are Miami and Arizona. The Jets will get some run, as well. But, like my colleague Elliot Harrison recently wrote, I have a feeling that Kansas City is the team that can give him everything he desires. He's a Midwest guy. He doesn't want to be overcome by media. He wants to play against teams he knows, and he wants a path to winning.

No one is poised to run away with the AFC West. San Diego has won by default for the most part lately. Add Manning to a K.C. team with Dwayne Bowe, Steve Breaston, Dexter McCluster, a healthy Tony Moeaki and a healthy Jamaal Charles? That would look a lot like the makeup of the Colts' offense in their heyday. K.C.'s defense is better than people think. Romeo Crennel has already said the Chiefs are interested.

I think Manning wants his life to most closely resemble what it was in Indianapolis. I'm sure Joe Montana is on the phone with him right now telling him what it was like to play in K.C. after getting pushed out of San Francisco. Sound familiar?

I hope to ALL THAT IS HOLY that he is on the phone with Joe Montana ASAP.

This town LOVED Joe, even though he was only here for a few games.

Rausch 03-07-2012 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8425259)
imagine the first time Bowe/Baldwin ran the wrong route on 3rd down and just short of shrugged and smiled as the walked over to the sideline.

Manning would explode


i'm so sick of that shit

I'm not sure Barry Richardson would survive the preseason with his dumbass shit.

I think they might all need a total d!ck who expects perfection and has the accomplished record (unlike Haley) to demand it...

RealSNR 03-07-2012 01:19 PM

The Denver Post suggests the Broncos would "have to be interested" if the Cardinals released Kevin Kolb in favor of pursuing Peyton Manning.
The Post doesn't believe the Broncos will pay attention to Manning in free agency, but Kolb could be a veteran option to push Tim Tebow. While the Broncos aren't quite "all-in" on Tebow, they think enough of his game-winning ability to not pursue an immediate, short-term replacement. Kolb would be a training camp competitor and candidate to take over if Tebow struggled early.

Mar 7 - 2:17 PM
Source: Denver Post

Could we be so lucky for Denver to continue the shit factory they've got going at QB?

htismaqe 03-07-2012 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8425017)
Redskins because they will spend any amount of money for anything
Jets because of the market

both pretty lame reasons imo

Is Arizona really going to switch from Kolb already?


Miami and Kansas City should be the legit leaders

Kolb isn't nearly as good as AZ needs him to be and now they have Skelton who could potentially be better. Kolb is due a $7M bonus on 3/17 as well...

Thig Lyfe 03-07-2012 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by the_spatula (Post 8425059)
Blurb from Jason Smith that just went up on nfl.com

Chiefs emerging as perfect fit for Peyton
The two front-runners are Miami and Arizona. The Jets will get some run, as well. But, like my colleague Elliot Harrison recently wrote, I have a feeling that Kansas City is the team that can give him everything he desires. He's a Midwest guy. He doesn't want to be overcome by media. He wants to play against teams he knows, and he wants a path to winning.

No one is poised to run away with the AFC West. San Diego has won by default for the most part lately. Add Manning to a K.C. team with Dwayne Bowe, Steve Breaston, Dexter McCluster, a healthy Tony Moeaki and a healthy Jamaal Charles? That would look a lot like the makeup of the Colts' offense in their heyday. K.C.'s defense is better than people think. Romeo Crennel has already said the Chiefs are interested.

I think Manning wants his life to most closely resemble what it was in Indianapolis. I'm sure Joe Montana is on the phone with him right now telling him what it was like to play in K.C. after getting pushed out of San Francisco. Sound familiar?

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Chiefs Pantalones 03-07-2012 01:21 PM

Has there been any concrete information for us to believe that the Chiefs are interested, or is it just ChiefsPlanet sports talk radio going on here lol

htismaqe 03-07-2012 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 8425315)
Has there been any concrete information for us to believe that the Chiefs are interested, or is it just ChiefsPlanet sports talk radio going on here lol

Well there was the buzz that Romeo was tampering...

Molitoth 03-07-2012 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8425113)
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Really? The Broncos.... c'mon man.

There is no logical reason why Manning would sign with the Broncos. They lack WR's... their idiot fans would still be chanting for Tebow... he would be playing outdoors in the snow where it's hard to breath... they have a couple of bright spots on their DL, but that's about it.

Mr. Laz 03-07-2012 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 8425315)
Has there been any concrete information for us to believe that the Chiefs are interested, or is it just ChiefsPlanet sports talk radio going on here lol


"I'm not supposed to talk about anyone else's players and he's still a player with Indianapolis," Crennel said. "But with a talent like that, I would be crazy not to consider it if he were available. I'll leave it at that."
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...160215998.html

Chiefs Pantalones 03-07-2012 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8425338)
"I'm not supposed to talk about anyone else's players and he's still a player with Indianapolis," Crennel said. "But with a talent like that, I would be crazy not to consider it if he were available. I'll leave it at that."
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...160215998.html

How many times have we heard that from our beloved Chiefs about a player though?

Mr. Laz 03-07-2012 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 8425340)
How many times have we heard that from our beloved Chiefs about a player though?

You've made it clear that you don't think he's coming to KC so there is no point in discussing it.

we'll just have to wait and see. :thumb:

The Bad Guy 03-07-2012 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Shag (Post 8425166)
That's a ridiculous supposition...

Absurd.

Completely absurd.

If the Chiefs offer the most money, is Tom Condon going to turn the Chiefs away because of Matt Cassel?

No freaking chance.

Mr_Tomahawk 03-07-2012 01:32 PM

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/1...fb_na_txt_0001

Chiefs Pantalones 03-07-2012 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8425348)
You've made it clear that you don't think he's coming to KC so there is no point in discussing it.

we'll just have to wait and see. :thumb:

I hope I'm wrong. Trotting out Matt Cassel out there in September when Pioli had a chance to sign Manning would be serious fail.

Mr. Laz 03-07-2012 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8425349)
Absurd.

Completely absurd.

If the Chiefs offer the most money, is Tom Condon going to turn the Chiefs away because of Matt Cassel?

No freaking chance.

If Manning said he wants to go to XXXX team then Tom Condon is going to get him to that team ... period.

The Bad Guy 03-07-2012 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8425360)
If Manning said he wants to go to XXXX team then Tom Condon is going to get him to that team ... period.

Absolutely, but I think Condon is going to play poker to get him the most money possible as well.

Bowser 03-07-2012 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8424982)
Rich Gannon said he spoke to Pioli this weekend and Pioli said he feels good about Cassel LOL

He's probably still pissed at the Chiefs, heh. Rightfully so, most likely.

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8425020)
plus, if he signs with the Chiefs he gets to play the Colts at Arrowhead this season.

This is an interesting point. I'm not sure if it would help or hurt our (or any team, for that matter) chances of having him land here. Litening to his presser, he got pretty choked up talking about the good times in Indy, and he made a point to say how he appreciated everyone in the organization, all the way down to the equipment managers. It would be curious to hear his take on potentially facing his team again THIS season.

Mr. Laz 03-07-2012 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8425364)
Absolutely, but I think Condon is going to play poker to get him the most money possible as well.

agreed, but unlike many players/agent relationships I think Manning is really the one in control of the situation.

Manning will pick a team and then condon with have a certain about of time to squeeze for money. I think Manning will want to get it done early so he can help design the offense etc.

Mr. Kotter 03-07-2012 01:41 PM

FWIW, a colleague mine who's a huge Colt's fan and follows the team closely, says he is 80% sure Manning will be wearing a Chief's uniform next year.

He's basing that on all the talk during the last 3-4 months, as well as his impression of what he thinks is the best "fit" for Manning given his years in Indy. Don't know if it really means anything, but he's been right a number of other times in his hunch about all things Colts. Guess we'll see...

Rausch 03-07-2012 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8425364)
Absolutely, but I think Condon is going to play poker to get him the most money possible as well.

And doesn't Condon ****ing LOATHE Carl?...

Mr. Kotter 03-07-2012 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 8425359)
I hope I'm wrong. Trotting out Matt Cassel out there in September when Pioli had a chance to sign Manning would be serious fail.

Yep.

Bowser 03-07-2012 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8425387)
And doesn't Condon ****ing LOATHE Carl?...

Doesn't he live in KC? I think it's an automatic to loathe King Carl if you're a KC resident.

Mr. Laz 03-07-2012 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8425387)
And doesn't Condon ****ing LOATHE Carl?...

forgot about that ... i believe you are correct.

another strike against Miami :clap:

Mr_Tomahawk 03-07-2012 02:04 PM

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-destination/

CAA factor looms over Peyton’s next destination

Posted by Mike Florio on March 7, 2012, 2:33 PM EST



When picking the next place where Peyton Manning will play, a potentially significant factor arises not from Peyton’s preferences or priorities but from the stable of clients represented by CAA, the agency that represents Manning.

CAA handles many athletes and coaches. (The mega-firm even represents some NFL reporters who, coincidentally, know a thing or two about CAA’s football clients.) And CAA will naturally be inclined to steer Peyton away from teams where another CAA client currently serves as the starting quarterback.

For starter, consider the 49ers. Alex Smith is the quarterback. He apparently wants to stay. The 49ers apparently want to keep him. There’s no evidence of a strong demand for his services on the open market.

And he’s represented by CAA.

So even if it makes sense for the 49ers to make a play for Manning, CAA won’t want to see that happen, if the end result is one less CAA client serving as an NFL starting quarterback.

Ditto for the Denver Broncos. When Jimmy Sexton joined CAA last year, he brought Tim Tebow with him. If the Broncos were to add Manning, Tebow would be bumped to the bench, or worse.

So forget about Manning becoming a Bronco.

CAA represents other starters whose teams likely aren’t thinking about making a change, including Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan, Rams quarterback Sam Bradford, Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers, and Lions quarterback Matt Stafford. Beyond that, there are some possible (not likely, but possible) destinations that complicate the careers of other CAA clients.

Buffalo? Ryan Fitzpatrick is another Sexton guy.

Cowboys? Tony Romo is represented by Ken Kremer of CAA.

Jaguars? Blaine Gabbert is a CAA client.

Vikings? Sexton has Christian Ponder.

Bucs? Kremer has Josh Freeman.

Of course, Peyton Manning can be a lot more persuasive and/or insistent than most clients. If he wants to go to San Francisco, he’s going to San Francisco, regardless of what it means for Alex Smith.

Still, the agent serves as the first point of contact, and the agent has plenty of control over who gets a seat at the table. Though it’s hardly the main factor, it’s definitely one of the various things that will go into the broader decision as to where Manning will play in 2012 and beyond.

Mr_Tomahawk 03-07-2012 02:10 PM

Sam Mellinger | Chiefs must do everything to get Manning

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/03/07...#storylink=cpy

Stuff Peyton Manning full of Boulevard Pale Ale and a Z-Man sandwich. Show him pictures of Arrowhead Stadium on a crisp fall Sunday, play video of Jamaal Charles rushing through the line and Tony Moeaki’s catch against the 49ers last year and — put this one on loop — Dwayne Bowe’s circus grabs in Indianapolis.

Whatever it takes.

Scott Pioli has a hard job. Being general manager of the Chiefs means an endless string of decisions on a razor’s edge, the wrong answer bringing losses and criticism and ultimately bad news from the boss.

Which is why he should be ecstatic, skipping down the halls of the Chiefs’ offices and bear-hugging Romeo Crennel to celebrate the easiest decision of his professional career:

Pursue Manning with everything the franchise has.

Do this, and a disproportionate amount of the common criticism — cheap ownership, unwilling to make bold moves, too much commitment to Matt Cassel — goes away. Vanishes.

This makes too much sense for the Chiefs not to make signing one of five greatest quarterbacks of all time priority No. 1, 2 and 3 this offseason.

Pioli’s Chiefs have made do with a mediocre quarterback. Their vision has been clouded by Cassel’s limitations. With rules stacked in favor of passing, the Chiefs have built around running. In three years, it’s produced a one-and-done playoff appearance in one of the NFL’s weakest divisions.

This is their chance to fix all that, a gift from the football gods of circumstance.

The best part? Every indication is that Pioli and the Chiefs are absolutely doing this.

Crennel talks openly and specifically about Manning, almost certainly violated the NFL’s tampering rules in the process. Pioli talks openly and specifically about improving the quarterback position. Clark Hunt talks openly and specifically about the enormous gap between what the Chiefs currently spend and what they’ll be required to spend in 2013 not being an issue.

So the talking points from the three most powerful men in the organization all point toward signing Manning to what would almost certainly be the highest annual salary in franchise history.

Manning will be able to choose virtually any franchise he wants. He is in a great spot. One projection says he’d make the biggest impact in Arizona, adding four wins. The Dolphins could use him. Seattle, too. And Washington. The list goes on and on, so the Chiefs will have to make their case.

They’ll have to show Manning more than the money. His first question might be how the Chiefs plan on fixing their broken offensive line, because he always had one of the league’s best in Indy. The Chiefs will also have to accept a significant risk.

Manning hasn’t thrown a meaningful pass in more than a year. He had three neck surgeries in 19 months. Nobody can be certain when or even if he’ll fully recover. Bringing him in means overhauling the existing system for Manning’s.

Even forgetting the neck, Manning turns 36 this month. Only five starting quarterbacks at that age have ever had higher passing ratings than Cassel’s 93.0 mark in 2010. Only three — Johnny Unitas, Jim Plunkett and John Elway — have won a Super Bowl after their 36th birthday.

It’s just that the Chiefs are terrifically positioned to absorb the risk and accentuate the potential reward.

The last five years or so of frugal spending mean they can make the money work. The franchise tag on Bowe, Moeaki’s presumed healing and Jon Baldwin’s presumed development mean Manning would have one of the league’s best group of receivers. Charles’ presumed healing means he’d have one of the best running backs.

As for the offensive line, the right moves can fix that this offseason. Besides, Manning would make the line instantly and significantly better.

And if it turns out that Manning can’t play, or is only a vague representation of his former self, then Cassel becomes a workable insurance policy.

The Chiefs are in a unique spot where the rewards of signing Manning mean more, and the risks mean less.

Pioli will have missed a franchise-altering opportunity if he doesn’t pursue this. NFL decisions never come this easy.

To reach Sam Mellinger, call 816-234-4365, send email to [email protected] or follow twitter.com/mellinger. For previous columns, go to KansasCity.com.


Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/03/07...#storylink=cpy

Thig Lyfe 03-07-2012 02:11 PM

Pioli's gotta be feeling the pressure now.

Bowser 03-07-2012 02:13 PM

Nice column from Mellinger, and accurate.

Mr_Tomahawk 03-07-2012 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SportsRacer (Post 8425473)
Pioli's gotta be feeling the pressure now.

The guy has 2 years left on his contract I believe...

If he wants to get an extension this year, this would be the move you make to get your extension.

It seems simple...

ToxSocks 03-07-2012 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8425461)
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-destination/

CAA factor looms over Peyton’s next destination

Posted by Mike Florio on March 7, 2012, 2:33 PM EST



When picking the next place where Peyton Manning will play, a potentially significant factor arises not from Peyton’s preferences or priorities but from the stable of clients represented by CAA, the agency that represents Manning.

CAA handles many athletes and coaches. (The mega-firm even represents some NFL reporters who, coincidentally, know a thing or two about CAA’s football clients.) And CAA will naturally be inclined to steer Peyton away from teams where another CAA client currently serves as the starting quarterback.

For starter, consider the 49ers. Alex Smith is the quarterback. He apparently wants to stay. The 49ers apparently want to keep him. There’s no evidence of a strong demand for his services on the open market.

And he’s represented by CAA.

So even if it makes sense for the 49ers to make a play for Manning, CAA won’t want to see that happen, if the end result is one less CAA client serving as an NFL starting quarterback.

Ditto for the Denver Broncos. When Jimmy Sexton joined CAA last year, he brought Tim Tebow with him. If the Broncos were to add Manning, Tebow would be bumped to the bench, or worse.

So forget about Manning becoming a Bronco.

CAA represents other starters whose teams likely aren’t thinking about making a change, including Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan, Rams quarterback Sam Bradford, Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers, and Lions quarterback Matt Stafford. Beyond that, there are some possible (not likely, but possible) destinations that complicate the careers of other CAA clients.

Buffalo? Ryan Fitzpatrick is another Sexton guy.

Cowboys? Tony Romo is represented by Ken Kremer of CAA.

Jaguars? Blaine Gabbert is a CAA client.

Vikings? Sexton has Christian Ponder.

Bucs? Kremer has Josh Freeman.

Of course, Peyton Manning can be a lot more persuasive and/or insistent than most clients. If he wants to go to San Francisco, he’s going to San Francisco, regardless of what it means for Alex Smith.

Still, the agent serves as the first point of contact, and the agent has plenty of control over who gets a seat at the table. Though it’s hardly the main factor, it’s definitely one of the various things that will go into the broader decision as to where Manning will play in 2012 and beyond.

And Peyton Manning will get priority over anyone. So this is pointless.

Manning will go wherever he pleases, his agent isn't going to get in the way of that.

lcarus 03-07-2012 02:16 PM

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siberian khatru 03-07-2012 02:16 PM

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As for the offensive line, the right moves can fix that this offseason. Besides, Manning would make the line instantly and significantly better.
Word (and I don't mean Barry).

Mr_Tomahawk 03-07-2012 02:17 PM

Doh.

The Bad Guy 03-07-2012 02:20 PM

When I canceled my season tickets, the rep basically begged me to stay on. He said that tons of people are canceling tickets and citing Matt Cassel as the reason.

Clark gets those reports, so does Pioli.

They have to go all in on Manning. I think this might be the one time that the fans voice will be heard loud and clear.

If the Chiefs roll out Cassel next year, the fanbase is gone.

Bowser 03-07-2012 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8425504)
When I canceled my season tickets, the rep basically begged me to stay on. He said that tons of people are canceling tickets and citing Matt Cassel as the reason.

Clark gets those reports, so does Pioli.

They have to go all in on Manning. I think this might be the one time that the fans voice will be heard loud and clear.

If the Chiefs roll out Cassel next year, the fanbase is gone.

I know I for one won't drop a dime out there if Cassel is our starter opening day.

Mr_Tomahawk 03-07-2012 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8425504)
When I canceled my season tickets, the rep basically begged me to stay on. He said that tons of people are canceling tickets and citing Matt Cassel as the reason.

Clark gets those reports, so does Pioli.

They have to go all in on Manning. I think this might be the one time that the fans voice will be heard loud and clear.

If the Chiefs roll out Cassel next year, the fanbase is gone.

It's nice to hear that CP isnt the only community frustrated with Cassel...

Rausch 03-07-2012 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8425509)
I know I for one won't drop a dime out there if Cassel is our starter opening day.

Ditto.

C@$$#ole/Haley is why I didn't go to a single game last year...

NJChiefsFan 03-07-2012 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8425504)
When I canceled my season tickets, the rep basically begged me to stay on. He said that tons of people are canceling tickets and citing Matt Cassel as the reason.

Clark gets those reports, so does Pioli.

They have to go all in on Manning. I think this might be the one time that the fans voice will be heard loud and clear.

If the Chiefs roll out Cassel next year, the fanbase is gone.

Wow, that just gave me a warm fuzzy.

Mr_Tomahawk 03-07-2012 02:24 PM

Dwyane Wade ‏ @DwyaneWade Close
I'm just gonna put it out thr..peyton that number 18 wld look gr8 in a dolphins uniform..steve ross let's go.. marlins & heat style..All in
Retweeted by Adam Schefter


Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter Close
Colts officially have released Peyton Manning. He will be free to sign with another team once waiver wire appears. Let the bidding begin.

Bowser 03-07-2012 02:25 PM

Wade rolled his ankle again immediately after that tweet.

FAX 03-07-2012 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8425504)
When I canceled my season tickets, the rep basically begged me to stay on. He said that tons of people are canceling tickets and citing Matt Cassel as the reason.

Clark gets those reports, so does Pioli.

They have to go all in on Manning. I think this might be the one time that the fans voice will be heard loud and clear.

If the Chiefs roll out Cassel next year, the fanbase is gone.

That's the best news I've heard so far today.

Thank you, Mr. The Bad Guy. In exchange for this marvelous information, I hereby award you the Giant Jewel Encrusted Crucible Of Joy with which you may anoint yourself and/or your significant other's private areas, as you wish.

FAX

Mr_Tomahawk 03-07-2012 02:32 PM

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...yton-in-miami/

Reggie Wayne gets animated about the possibility of playing with Peyton in Miami

It has been reported that receiver Reggie Wayne would be interested in signing with the Dolphins. On Wednesday, Reggie Wayne said for himself that, if that’s where Peyton lands, that’s where Reggie would like to be.

“I could see it,” Wayne told Michael Irvin of WQAM radio in Miami. “I’m definitely not opposed to it, you know? He’s a great worker, and I consider myself a great worker. And when you put great workers together, good things happen. Me being in his trail going to Miami? I would love it. I would definitely love it. I am totally available. My phone is working. Make sure you put that out there, my phone is working. I paid my bills ahead of time, just so we have no problems. So I am ready for anything that comes right now.”

If the written words don’t convey it, Wayne became more animated and excited the more he talked about it. He became even more animated and excited once he discussed the possibility of a football version of LeBron James, Dwayne Wade, and Chris Bosh: Peyton Manning, Reggie Wayne, and Brandon Marshall.

“It can definitely be dangerous,” Wayne said. “It can truly be dangerous, if they put us all together. The league might not want that, Mike. They might not want that. They might not want to see that. South Florida is already hot out here, baby, so you put us all together, it’ll be burning up.”

Irvin kept pushing, and Reggie kept gushing.

“It’s be great, it’d be fun,” Wayne said. “Exciting. Now you got me visualizing it. I see the visual, it is there. I see it. It would be great. It would definitely be a fun time, and an outstanding journey in South Florida.”

Wayne isn’t available to be signed by another team for six days. Manning can officially be signed as of 4:00 p.m. ET. Don’t be surprised if, wherever they land, they’ll be together again.

The Bad Guy 03-07-2012 02:34 PM

I'll be shocked if Manning wants to fight Brady for the division each year too.

Thig Lyfe 03-07-2012 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8425550)
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...yton-in-miami/

Reggie Wayne gets animated about the possibility of playing with Peyton in Miami

It has been reported that receiver Reggie Wayne would be interested in signing with the Dolphins. On Wednesday, Reggie Wayne said for himself that, if that’s where Peyton lands, that’s where Reggie would like to be.

“I could see it,” Wayne told Michael Irvin of WQAM radio in Miami. “I’m definitely not opposed to it, you know? He’s a great worker, and I consider myself a great worker. And when you put great workers together, good things happen. Me being in his trail going to Miami? I would love it. I would definitely love it. I am totally available. My phone is working. Make sure you put that out there, my phone is working. I paid my bills ahead of time, just so we have no problems. So I am ready for anything that comes right now.”

If the written words don’t convey it, Wayne became more animated and excited the more he talked about it. He became even more animated and excited once he discussed the possibility of a football version of LeBron James, Dwayne Wade, and Chris Bosh: Peyton Manning, Reggie Wayne, and Brandon Marshall.

“It can definitely be dangerous,” Wayne said. “It can truly be dangerous, if they put us all together. The league might not want that, Mike. They might not want that. They might not want to see that. South Florida is already hot out here, baby, so you put us all together, it’ll be burning up.”

Irvin kept pushing, and Reggie kept gushing.

“It’s be great, it’d be fun,” Wayne said. “Exciting. Now you got me visualizing it. I see the visual, it is there. I see it. It would be great. It would definitely be a fun time, and an outstanding journey in South Florida.”

Wayne isn’t available to be signed by another team for six days. Manning can officially be signed as of 4:00 p.m. ET. Don’t be surprised if, wherever they land, they’ll be together again.

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The Bad Guy 03-07-2012 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8425527)
That's the best news I've heard so far today.

Thank you, Mr. The Bad Guy. In exchange for this marvelous information, I hereby award you the Giant Jewel Encrusted Crucible Of Joy with which you may anoint yourself and/or your significant other's private areas, as you wish.

FAX

Thank you Fax. I'll treasure it always.

bricks 03-07-2012 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SportsRacer (Post 8425560)

Peyton Manning

TheGuardian 03-07-2012 02:37 PM

I can't see Manning going to Miami to have to fight Brady every year for a division title. He wants another SB win and go and play NE possibly three times a year to do it.

htismaqe 03-07-2012 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8425520)
Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter Close
Colts officially have released Peyton Manning. He will be free to sign with another team once waiver wire appears. Let the bidding begin.

Whoa, whoa, wait...

The waiver wire?

Is it possible that we're all missing something significant here?

Does Manning have to CLEAR waivers? If so, that makes things interesting because a team COULD just claim him and pay him under his current contract, right?

If we were willing to absorb his existing contract, we effectively eliminate the Seahawks, Jets, Cardinals, and everybody except Washington and Miami because they have priority over us.

That also means that if Miami, for example, decides they want him no matter what, we'll never get a shot at him.

FAX 03-07-2012 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8425603)
Whoa, whoa, wait...

The waiver wire?

Is it possible that we're all missing something significant here?

Does Manning have to CLEAR waivers? If so, that makes things interesting because a team COULD just claim him and pay him under his current contract, right?

If we were willing to absorb his existing contract, we effectively eliminate the Seahawks, Jets, Cardinals, and everybody except Washington and Miami because they have priority over us.

That also means that if Miami, for example, decides they want him no matter what, we'll never get a shot at him.

Okay ... I need a refresher course on how waivers work.

I thought they cut him?

FAX

Mr_Tomahawk 03-07-2012 02:46 PM

Sam Mellinger ‏ @mellinger Close
Well-earned and honest skepticism. MT @ChiefsandOsFan Sam its gonna be a bidding war so that rules out the chiefs look at pioli first 3yrs

Mr_Tomahawk 03-07-2012 02:47 PM

Sam Mellinger ‏ @mellinger Close
I don't know, but Dungy was/is a defensive guy. RT @leeleslie Does Romeo's focus on defense help or hurt the Chief's chances on Manning?

Arrowhead Pride ‏ @ArrowheadPride Close
@mellinger I'd probably say helps. Means the head coach is less involved in the offense. That's Manning's area.

dirk digler 03-07-2012 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8425603)
Whoa, whoa, wait...

The waiver wire?

Is it possible that we're all missing something significant here?

Does Manning have to CLEAR waivers? If so, that makes things interesting because a team COULD just claim him and pay him under his current contract, right?

If we were willing to absorb his existing contract, we effectively eliminate the Seahawks, Jets, Cardinals, and everybody except Washington and Miami because they have priority over us.

That also means that if Miami, for example, decides they want him no matter what, we'll never get a shot at him.

Sounds like it so the Chiefs should go for it. :D

Dayze 03-07-2012 02:49 PM

what does Nick Athan have to say about all this?

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-07-2012 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 8425652)
what does Nick Athan have to say about all this?

The deal is done?

Rausch 03-07-2012 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8425621)
Okay ... I need a refresher course on how waivers work.

I thought they cut him?

FAX

No waivers.

No...

FAX 03-07-2012 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8425658)
No waivers.

No...

ROFL

I think I understand ... and that scares me a little.

FAX

ToxSocks 03-07-2012 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8425550)
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...yton-in-miami/

Reggie Wayne gets animated about the possibility of playing with Peyton in Miami

It has been reported that receiver Reggie Wayne would be interested in signing with the Dolphins. On Wednesday, Reggie Wayne said for himself that, if that’s where Peyton lands, that’s where Reggie would like to be.

“I could see it,” Wayne told Michael Irvin of WQAM radio in Miami. “I’m definitely not opposed to it, you know? He’s a great worker, and I consider myself a great worker. And when you put great workers together, good things happen. Me being in his trail going to Miami? I would love it. I would definitely love it. I am totally available. My phone is working. Make sure you put that out there, my phone is working. I paid my bills ahead of time, just so we have no problems. So I am ready for anything that comes right now.”

If the written words don’t convey it, Wayne became more animated and excited the more he talked about it. He became even more animated and excited once he discussed the possibility of a football version of LeBron James, Dwayne Wade, and Chris Bosh: Peyton Manning, Reggie Wayne, and Brandon Marshall.

“It can definitely be dangerous,” Wayne said. “It can truly be dangerous, if they put us all together. The league might not want that, Mike. They might not want that. They might not want to see that. South Florida is already hot out here, baby, so you put us all together, it’ll be burning up.”

Irvin kept pushing, and Reggie kept gushing.

“It’s be great, it’d be fun,” Wayne said. “Exciting. Now you got me visualizing it. I see the visual, it is there. I see it. It would be great. It would definitely be a fun time, and an outstanding journey in South Florida.”

Wayne isn’t available to be signed by another team for six days. Manning can officially be signed as of 4:00 p.m. ET. Don’t be surprised if, wherever they land, they’ll be together again.

**** Miami.

That city is getting on my nerves.

htismaqe 03-07-2012 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8425658)
No waivers.

No...

Are we sure? Why would Schefter mention the waiver wire then?

Mr_Tomahawk 03-07-2012 03:05 PM

"The moment the Colts announced his release, Manning joined the ranks of unrestricted players. He can sign a contract once he hits the waiver wire Wednesday afternoon. So while full-fledged free agency doesn't begin until March 13, Manning is free now. Manning's agent, Tom Condon, will have his cell phone fully charged."

Read more: http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/stor...#ixzz1oT2H4y4S

Dayze 03-07-2012 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8425715)
**** Miami.

That city is getting on my nerves.

whenever I think of Miami...I have thsi image in my head:

http://gifsoup.com/imager.php?id=1337763&t=o GIFSoup

Quesadilla Joe 03-07-2012 03:07 PM

**BREAKING NFL NEWS**Source: The first 2Teams that have contacted Peyton Manning 's reps are the Dolphins & Jets (Both setting up talks)

https://twitter.com/#!/incarceratedb...98349719662592

Mr_Tomahawk 03-07-2012 03:07 PM

Evan Silva ‏ @evansilva Close
Miami Herald believes the #Cardinals are the #Dolphins biggest threat in the race to sign Peyton Manning

FAX 03-07-2012 03:08 PM

Under a "waiver", the player's existing contract is up for grabs, right?

The Colts just said, Manning is no longer a Colt because they chose not to pay his contract ... ergo, no contract. Therefore, no waiver. Right?

FAX

Micjones 03-07-2012 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8425718)
Are we sure? Why would Schefter mention the waiver wire then?

WAIVER SYSTEM

Section 1. Release:
(a) Whenever a player who has finished the season in which his fourth year of credited service has been earned under the Bert Bell/Pete Rozelle Plan is placed on waivers between February 1 and the trading deadline, his contract will be considered terminated and the player will be completely free at any time thereafter to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with any Club, and any Club shall be completely free to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with such player, without penalty or restriction, including, but not limited to, Draft Choice Compensation between Clubs or First Refusal Rights of any kind, or any signing period.

FAX 03-07-2012 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 8425743)
He'll have to appear there before he can be signed.
He doesn't need to CLEAR waivers though.

Ah ... that makes sense.

FAX

Carlota69 03-07-2012 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 8425734)
**BREAKING NFL NEWS**Source: The first 2Teams that have contacted Peyton Manning 's reps are the Dolphins & Jets (Both setting up talks)

https://twitter.com/#!/incarceratedb...98349719662592

**** that guy. Why anyone pays attention to him is beyond me.


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