you cant be this stupid, oh, sorry, I forgot who I was talking to

Not sure how that's blaming Stanzi for the interception. Nice try though, dumbass.

I said Stanzi didn't make 3 reads, as you claim he did. He stared down the slant route and the DB read it and broke on the play. The interception was a fluke.

:facepalm:

Facepalm all you want. You are trying to pass off Stanzi's brain fart for hanging onto the ball because a FB got pushed back into after the ball should have been gone. You are trying to pass off Stanzi's horrible fumble on the refs as it shouldn't have happened because of a penalty.

Stanzi sucked. Get over it.

Are you saying he was looking at Copper in the first two screenshots?

Seriously?

Watch the ****ing play...his throwing motion starts the moment he looks over to Copper on the play.

The ball is out in less than 3 seconds from the time the ball is snapped.

I'll be more than happy to watch it AGAIN, just for you. After I get done watching other shows because watching a 3rd string QB isn't at the top of my priority list right now.

You dont even have to watch it.

Just look at those three screenshots that are right in front of your face.

Are you trying to tell everybody that he is looking in the same direction on all three?

If the answer is yes, you are one of the biggest imbeciles this site has ever had to offer.

BTW the reason he is looking in three different directions isnt because he is staring down one guy the whole time, idiot.

Get back to me with a clip of the play and not a single frame in time where Stanzi was beginning to look to his right and Maneri just happened to be in the picture.

Maneri's route breaks toward the left (short post I believe is the proper term for his route), so wtf is he reading by looking to the right?

Just finished watching the game. Thoughts:

- Stanzi wasn't as bad as everyone is trying to make it out to be around here. Piss poor blocking by Allen, the RG and the FB lead to bad plays. He showed nice touch on the ball and looked okay to me.

- Branden Albert sucks. No shit. Serious. Guy is a lunger. Horrible footwork.

- Dontari Poe is horrible. Third quarter in a single series he let the running back go right past him three times. Got stood up by the center or guard all night on single teams. His football skill level is near zero. He's going to require some serious coaching and time to become a decent football player if it even ever happens.

- I'd like to see Brady Quinn play with the first team. I'm sick of watching Matt Cassel go through a single receiver progression and dump it off to the safety valve running back. I'm also sick of Cassel throwing the ball into the facemasks of the defense. Quinn, playing with the thirds, was a better QB by a long shot.

- Dexter McCluster looked pretty damn good and made several nice catches.

- Peyton Hillis is a horse and looks ready to mow people down.

- Michael Brockers owned Lilja. Owned. Allen looked like shit. Harris looked like shit. Left guard is a concern.

- Jerrell Powe needs to get first team reps. He's made some really nice plays in two straight games. Filled the gaps well while he was on the field and got two really nice QB pressures against the Rams.

- Kevin Boss is a major, major upgrade over Pope and I have no worry if Moeaki falls apart in 2012. Boss can play.

- Jalil Brown stood out on several plays. Showed nice coverage at CB and gets after it on special teams.

Whats the point, you wouldn't understand the answer.

In your pea sized brain, Stanzi never looks anywhere but at Copper.

Lilja just can't handle stronger guys. He's pure finesse at this point. I'd rather put Allen in and let him grow there with the other guys.


Poe, at this point, is a pass rusher only. He can't 2 gap, technique, like Sac said, isn't close at all.


Albert, IMO, seems like a guy that loses focus alot. When he's locked in, he's a good player. When he's not, he gets sloppy.

I've already said he looks straight ahead for 2 steps and then looks right and locks onto Copper. He makes 2 reads, at most.

I just rewatched it during a commercial break and there are 2 defenders reading his eyes and they are both closing in on Copper.

I simply cant believe I am agreeing with sac....but I am.

I agree with all of this.

Allen looked great game 1, bad game 2.

See...in your pea sized brain, a quarterback doesn't even read the movements of the defenders, only the receivers.

At least you have moved off the "he stared Copper down the whole time" dumbassery and moved up to "he makes two reads, at most"

Now, you just need to try and figure out what Stanzi is doing in that first screenshot where he is looking nowhere near Maneri.

Hint: O. City and I have already given you the answer.

He could very well be reading Maneri's route when he was looking straight ahead because that's exactly where Maneri is ****ing going. Or he could just be looking that way to keep the defenders from breaking on the slant. Who the **** knows? Which is why I said 2 reads at most.

And I was never on the "he only stared down Copper" you ****ing buffoon.

Once he settles in and solidifys his technique at this level (which we have the coaching staff to do) the kid is gonna be pretty ****ing good.

He is used to being a tackle and dealing with speed.

He needs to learn to lower his center to anchor against stronger and heavier DTs.

Shocking, you are critical of Albert.

I think Allen is gonna be a really good player too, we need him to be good soon.

yeah, you never said he only stared down Copper on the slant.

:facepalm:

Now, dance.

Why don't you quote the whole post you idiot?

He stared down the slant route. Come up with a good ****ing reason on why he would be reading Maneri's route when Maneri is going in the other ****ing direction.

Now, dance.

Wow, u dumb.

Did you even read the rest of the post that I didnt keep on there because it was irrelevant to the disagreement?

The part where you said he only looked at anybody but Copper for "all of a half second"

Then, a few words later, you said he locked onto him....then, a few posts later, you said you never said he starred Copper down.

You're so ****ing stupid, you cant even keep your own posts straight.

The second he looks at Copper, the ball comes out.

He NEVER stares/locks on to him.

Just calling it as I see it. He looked like shit in this game. He was punching/lunging all night, didn't move his feet and was simply sloppy all around.

Did you watch this game? What did you think of his performance?

I give. You are right. He was clearly looking at Maneri, who is running a short post up the middle, by looking to his right.

Stanzi is amazing. The defenders were psychic and didn't read his eyes. Copper failed and didn't knock the ball down. Nothing Stanzi did caused that INT to happen.

Maybe you can post a screenshot of how wide open Maneri was when he made his cut inside.

jd1020, I'm sorry that you cant understand simple things, even when they are explained to you in detail.

I really am.

If you can't tell that Stanzi is looking in three different directions in those pics, NOBODY here can help you.

I already said you were right, bro.

He made 3 reads.

#1 up the middle.

#2 at Maneri, who just so happens ends up pretty ****ing open up the middle.

#3 at a slant route getting jumped on with another defender eeking his way over.

What more would you like?

Would a GIF settle this? Show me on the doll where ricky stanzi touched you.

Please do, because I keep looking at the replay of the camera looking right into his eyes and I can't seem to find this 3rd location.

Down, distance, clock time, quarter.

2 & 11, Chiefs 18, 14:15, 3rd quarter.

Looks like two reads to me. Maneri is the first read.

http://i.imgur.com/nqlvd.gif

He comes off Maneri because of the LB drifting in coverage right in front of him.

Maneri looks wide open AFTER Stanzi has thrown the ball and the LB has reacted.

1 straight ahead...maybe a hair to the left...hard to be decisive about it.
2 slightly to the right
3 all the way to the rigth

Pretty much what I was saying. Look up the middle to begin the play to possibly read Maneri's route, but he looked off of it so fast I wasn't ready to call it a read and then he looked right to the slant and didn't look anywhere else.

I still think he could have hit Maneri. The LB is drifting right and Maneri is going left. As soon as he breaks he could have lead him and hit him for a first, but we'll never know.

MOAR

what do you think he is doing when he is looking straight ahead?

Checking the price of nachos?

Stanzi goes through his reads a lot faster than people expect.

Pretty sure I just said what I thought.

Who cares?

There's plenty of nail Stanzi for. This isn't one of the plays.

Never said it was.

Just tired of the Stanzi apologists making shit up and calling everyone idiots. I never blamed Stanzi for the fluke play. I was just trying to figure out where the hell this phantom "3rd read" came from.

I just played the same play on my Sony 52" top of the line LCD off my directv box and you can see the three places he looks clear as day.

A lot easier to tell than on a smaller gif...but I can clearly see the three angles he looks at during the play on both mediums.

Never give up, never surrender!

Seriously...

if he had made a gif of the very first replay it shows of the play, it shows Stanzis face and you can EASILY see all three places he looks.

Its not even debatable.

This play was not even on my list of Stanzi facepalms while watching the game, but this gif makes me wonder if he waited for the receiver to stop and turn around before throwing the pass.

Wow.

Stanzi's OL did not do him any favors.

Yeah, that first sack is all on him for holding it too long.

This shit is on his OL, and Cassel draws a flag here. WTF is Stanzi supposed to do? He completes his drop and immediately gets a big bear claw in the face.

http://i.imgur.com/8RvRq.gif

Stanzi is being painted pretty badly.

Here is the worst thing he did: he missed this open guy, which led to him getting sacked on the next play, which led to the ill-fated 4th down.

http://i.imgur.com/QCupR.jpg



After that his night was over, which kinda sucked.

"Game 6" was still pretty stupid of an idea, but anyone giving up on Stanzi because of this is ignorant.

If that facemask is called, it nullifies the fumble and gives us a first down in the red zone.

That changes everything.

Just saw Stanzi's last snap.

Nate Eachus is a ****ing pussy.

How about that run-run-pass-punt bullshit, too, eh?

Not giving up on Stanzi.

Stanzi pulled that ball down because if he releases it, the corner was closing on an out for a probable pick. Either that or the DE bats it down. That was a heads up play.

Not his fault Nate Eachus is made of kittens.

Allen Bailey did not have a good game at all.

Watching him get pushed around by 3rd teamers.

Not real impressed.

Wow, did that pussy Nate Eachus just fumble?

Cut that white boy.

Me neither.

Even with the RRPP BS, if the pussy fullback doesnt get thrown right into him, he completes the out route for the first down.

Only on Chiefs Planet will you see a play where your own fullback getting thrown into you as you throw the ball from inside your own 20 and pull it down to avoid a pick is a "terrible play by Stanzi"

I don't think Stanzi lost the #2 job, but Quinn might have won it with that TD throw.

That was sick, and Cassel can't hit that pass.

Pestilence fapped to that.

Anyway, looking forward to Stanzi taking Cassel's job in Game 6, 2013.

When are the first cuts?

I don't know, but I'd cut Dexter before Jeremy Horne. :evil:

ROFL

If Dexter gets 600 yards, can I get a Stanzi jersey instead?

Does every thread around here these days devolve into a Stanzi thread?

only when somebody doesnt start a thread about it.

You can get any jersey you want.

You better hope the team stays healthy on offense...

It's debates about exactly that type of play that divides people that either love the kid, or hate him.

I think more times than not, the kid makes the right decision but not everyone sees it the same way.

Dexter is at greater risk than anyone else. He's the smallest player on the field.

I only have 4 Chiefs Jerseys that aren't signed.

94 Montana Mitchell n ness
96 DT pro bowl Mitchell n ness
Home Bowe Jersey
Home Dorsey Jersey

After 2012, the Bowe and Dorsey jerseys might get retired and I'll need a new one of a current player.

A Stanzi jersey will be perfect.

Not sure if it was covered but for the out-of-towners who had to watch the nfl net telecast, the rams booth was un-bearable.

Funny that clay has trolled around here since the game about Stanzi , now it's looking like he just actually , you know SAW the game
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I didn't really listen to what they were saying. The one thing I did pick up on and laughed hysterically at was when the refs spotted the Rams D 34 yards and they praised the Rams #2 D for stopping the Chiefs #1 O. Of course the resident Rams fan had to come in and agree with them, which made it even better.

i got tired of hearing...."the Chiefs are still playing their starters, and we have in our 2nd string"

I finally watched the first half. I still haven't seen the second but will watch it tonight.

Shane Bannon is terrible. Last year, he couldn't get to his block fast enough. This year it's the same thing. I don't care if he's smart. He sucks balls.

Lilja is still the weak spot on the o-line. The jail break always starts with Lilja. Allen needs to start.

Routt was not good. He was picked on a bit and should have been called for pass interference.

Boss should start over Moeaki. Tony is not a good blocker and isn't getting open. He should be the #2 TE in my opinion.

Pitoitua got a long look with the first team and he played poorly. Harvey Dahl and the back up center just whipped his ass. Toribido hardly played.

I thought Jalil Brown had a very good game. He should start over Routt. Routt should start in the nickel. He has played there for most of his career.

I think we will sign one of the Rams FBs. We have already had Mughelli in for a visit and they won't keep two of them. Brit Miller is also very good but they will probably keep him. Daboll needs a blocking FB to run his offense and we don't have one.

Cassel looked great. He got rid of the ball and made great reads. Had a great 3rd down pass to McCluster.

Boss looked really good and will make an impact.

Poe looked excellent. He was the best d-linemen in the first half.

Asamoah dominated at RG. He and Winston just plow the road. They are really nasty together.

I thought the Rams opened their playbook and the Chiefs were very vanilla. We never rushed more than five and played three basic defenses the entire first half. This is why you saw Belcher cover the TE etc.

I'm not worried.

Yeah, it wasn't as much of their second team as they were making it out to be. What about the mustaches? What the **** was that?

When was Routt called for PI? I only remember 1 PI call and it was Arenas.

He didn't get called. He got away with it.

When? I don't recall him getting picked on in the game. Brown was.

Brown was only thrown at twice. He gave up a catch on the slant and that was it. He had a nice diving break up in the first quarter. He played really well.

Routt got burned on the first play. Later, he got away with pass interference on Steve Smith when they tried to go deep on him again. The announcers kept talking about Smith's sneaky speed.

The Rams commentary team is as bad as they come. Horrible.

He didn't get away with shit. He and Smith we're playing patty-cake all the way down the field. The refs let it go because they both were doing it, and it didn't really impact the play. You flaming Routt based on what should have been PI is stupid because PI has developed into a pretty subjective penalty over the last five years or so.

I think you're way off. Yep, they were both doing it but, Routt will get called for that more often than not. Offensive pass interference is very rare. Furthermore, Routt is the guy who lead the league in pass interference calls last season. Also, he was the most penalized player on the most penalized team. Personally, I think he got away with it because of the replacement officials. The regular officials would have called that. Especially on Routt. They will be watching him close. Routt is one of the fastest players in the league. Don't you find it odd they went deep on him twice in the first quarter?

The chances of them beating him or getting a pass interference call are probably better than him knocking it down or getting a pick. Let's hope this isn't a sign of what is to come.

thats just reeruned. i havent seen anything ever from horne to warrant him being better than dexter. dexter can do alot of things, he can cover the slot, play rb, be a return man, he is a player that daboll can do alot of exciting things with, all horne can do is be a receiver and a gunner on special teams, and maybe return kicks.

point of the matter is i like mccluster way better than i do horne, with all of the offensive weapons if u get mccluster out there one on one, he's goin to make somebody eat his lunch.

Awwww. Papa bear supporting his young.

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I wish you'd eat shit.

He knows the longer we keep him around the less competition there will be for his job.

The good news is that you know you're coming down the home stretch of preseason when someone goes full Heather Brooke on the #3 QB on the roster.

ROFL