Gonzo isn't in kc because we traded him.
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If I'm Clark, I'd go to Bowe and say


"I know Pioli lowballed you, but he's gone next year and we will get you signed and a new QB".

How do you get a 1st for a player that's franchised? He don't want to be there so let the jets and fins offer silly money for him if he's a lost cause anyway.

We traded him because he wanted out the moment Pioli took over and traded Thigpen.

Gonzo wanted to be traded so he could take a shot at a super bowl.

Bowe's reaction to that:

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploa...iving-Away.gif

Seriously.

I don't think there's a damn thing that's going to keep Bowe in KC other than the franchise tag 1 more time.

You think Bowe gives a shit about going through the growing pains of yet another ****ing QB?

He's on the first flight out of town after week 17.

It's hard to say exactly how Bowe feels, but if I were him I would feel cheated because I was stuck with Cassel as QB for far too long. It's nearly impossible for any organization, football or in the business world, to repair at kind of damage. Bowe would never be as motivated to play for this franchise as he once was, regardless of what Clark tells him or which QB we draft. A fresh start is probably the only thing for it. We may as well get something in return instead of just cutting the guy.

I do agree, although if we did get Geno and he pulled an RG3 it would give him something to think about. Still, if he hits UFA after 2 tags I would not like our chances.

if i were Bowe, i'd tell Clark and company to take this gig and shove it.

I thought thigpen was traded in the pre season

If you show Bowe the money, he'd stay.

Because he'll be desperate for offers?

Bowe isn't coming back here.

There is no way he'll re-sign here with the shit quarterback, lack of direction and pee drinking crap face GM.

no way.

Might as well get something.

Just popping in again to say **** these idiots.

awesome avatar. ROFL

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Well said, Mr. Strongside. You, sir, put the "oooh" in "erudite".

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Obviously, at this point in the game you are gonna have to overpay to keep him. But thats pretty much on our imbecile GM.

Shouldve just ponied up the money and paid carr.

Now both of them will be gone, and all we'll have to show for 2 of kcs homegrown players will be a 2nd rd pick which will most likely be spend on either of the 2 positions we just let go or a stupid ass tackle

This fugging sucks but Bowe will never stay here anyway. He's not a top end WR because he lacks speed. Scott had better get a one pick so we can draft geno and the best WR on the board.

I'll take Matt Moore and a 1st, otherwise Franchise his ass again.

:spock:
Have you even seen him play?

He's put up very good numbers playing with shitty QBs his entire career.

we'll use Carr's money to pay Bowe we'll use Bowe's money to pay Albert we'll use Albert's money to pay hey wait a minute we're out of Herm's players

that's one of my favorite gifs on the internetz. though the one with Burt in the back seat is double awesome.

Personally, I think there are a lot of franchises that would love to make room on their roster for Bowe, Mr. Tuckdaddy.

In fact, I'll bet you that, when Bowe goes to another team, he'll redouble his work ethic, sharpen his focus, improve his game, and excel. He may not be a HOFer, but, paired with a solid quarterback, he'll see his share of pro bowls.

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During the final four of Petro's interview, he asked a bullshit question about whether or not Pioli dressed up for Halloween. Why? No clue.

Anyway, Pioli joked and said, "Some say I'm masquerading as a General Manager...hahaha..."

That's someone comfortable with his job security. Period.

If he is as arrogant as reported & seems apparent now, it has never actually occurred to him could be fired and won't right up to the point he is sitting with Clark and the words come out of his mouth.

Its not in his realm of comprehension, which is part of the problem.

**** your couch.

http://gifsoup.com/imager.php?id=2686646&t=o

By giving these "interviews", he thinks he's quelled the storm. Now's the time to turn up the heat.

In the immortal words of Alfred Hitchcock, "I'll take my Pioli fried."

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True.

But I'm pissed that it came to this.

Pioli should have had both Bowe and Carr locked into new contracts before we ever got to the point that they were both free agents.

And when he failed at that, he should have gotten Bowe under contract before it came to this.

He has failed.

Add in the fact that he has failed, for the most part, in the draft, his choice for "franchise QB, and his choices at HC, and we have a useless piece of shit pretending to be a GM.

I hate this fat, bald bastard so much.

I wish I could be cryo-frozen and woken up 5 minutes before his firing.

I just don't see what the guy has done to justify a new ****ing contract.

there is going to be a lot of bummed out people when this turd Pioli trades Bowe for a lot cheaper than everyones expectations of value (at least a 1st)

When Pioli flips him to one of his buddies (Ireland) on a discount deal for a 3rd round and some scrubs this place will explode at the fact we traded one of our only good talented homegrown players left on the entire roster for garbage.

Which sounds, exactly like something Pioli would do lol especially so his guy (Baldwin) can play/take over the role of being the only targeted WR all game

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If you love someone, you need to set them free.
If they return to you, it was meant be.



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I can sincerely say that I haven't a clue either.

Bowe is not getting traded before the deadline. And Pioli isn't going anywhere this season.

You're right.

It's just further proof that you have your balls up your ass.

Thanks.

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Oops, 0-16.

Nope

I won't go so far as to say "needs" to happen but I imagine Pioli knows Bowe isn't going to re-sign. Hell maybe Bowe has even told him "no way I'm re-signing to play any longer with your worthless ass." Would anyone blame him? So Pioli may be doing the only thing he has left to do... get something in return.

We're not getting a 1st rounder for Bowe. No chance. I'd be shocked at a 2nd. Most likely, a 3rd, and a couple garbage time picks.

It's a moot point, because they're not gonna trade him anyway.

And people are pissed because despite his flaws, he's the best WR we've had since... I dunno Stephon Paige? I'm not sure... I was pretty young when he played here.

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So Claythan things Cassel is good enough to go through all his progressions? Because any Chiefs fan should know that his first looks are short to McCluster, Bowe, or TE. I always thought Cassel stared down his go to guy on the play called most of the times, and didn't read through his progressions to see his best option to throw the ball too. But I could be wrong.

If Pioli knows he won't re-sign he'll trade him... as he should then. Of course Bowe not being willing to re-sign would be who's fault....? Exactly.

He was traded early in the 09 season.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4516236

They can always franchise him again. And that's great money for one year. (again) But further damages the relationship, because Bowe (like all players) wants a long term deal. Not necessarily here.

one I'm okay with...the other I'm not. Both are at 99.9% probability.

Me and my buddy Dave are going to the Raiders game with bags on our heads.

I mean, we already have the tics and and parking passes (insert dorky weird crossmouthed smilie-thingie here)

Hard to complain about 20m over 2 yrs.

:)

You don't want Bowe and his negative energy on the team next year. Especially when you guys get your shiny new first round QB. Might as well get something for him and move on. Why would you want him there anyways if he doesn't want to be there?

Bowe can be replaced. WR's like Bowe come out every year. He is a good player, he's nothing special.

At the risk of encouraging your trollery, I have to ask:

What the **** are you talking about?

Seriously, they BETTER sign Albert long term if they aren't gonna be able to get max value from a Bowe trade.

I suppose if you believe it will be impossible to sign him, then you take the trade and limp on. Sure would be nice to have Bowe around for our new qb next season, though. If anything, we should be shopping defensive players for picks.

Losing Bowe is inexcusable. He's an elite WR and should be paid accordingly. We have ample cap room. Unfortunately we are wasting his elite skills on a piss-poor QB and continue to show a disdain for the passing game.

I'd franchise him and give him a year with our rookie QB. He can decide if KC is on the real high ups soon or not then.

**** you and your reeruned inbred parents.

A guy who is not wanting to be somewhere will undermine coaches, do just enough to get buy, will be more willing to give up when they aren't involved in the game... He will just be a bad guy to have around. The Chiefs have nobody who can keep a guy like that in line on the offensive side of the ball, they are too young, there is no leadership who can put Bowe in his place if he is acting out.

He's not. He is a #1 receiver, that's it. Nothing about Dwayne Bowe is elite. He's got good size and uses his body well, but he isn't that fast, struggles against the press, has inconsistent hands, and is one of the few diva WR's out there. You can get a guy who can match Bowe's production every year in the draft.

**** off.

Look at all the shitty QBs he's had throwing to him.

Huard
Croyle
Thigpen
Cassel


Yet his numbers are comparable to any WR drafted since he was in 07.

Bowe only has 11 fewer receptions than Megatron.

I know full well he's not as talented, but you'd have to be a complete idiot to say he's not a #1.

I'm not saying he sucks. I just think you can get a guy who can match his production every year in the draft. He is a #1 WR who is good for 1,000 yards and 5+ TD's. Every single year their are 20 guys who get 1,000 yards and 5+ TD's.

Yep, and how many of these WRs have played with shit QBs for the 1st 6yrs of their careers?

Jennings was drafted in 06 and has 400 catches.

He's also had Favre and Rogers the whole time.

Notice how well Decker is playing with Manning?

Decker is just another guy.

With a good QB, Bowe is elite.

Bowe still gets a shit ton of passes thrown his way. I don't think his numbers would sky rocket with a great QB. He might get 3 or 4 more TD's but his yards would still be similar.

Larry Fitzgerald and Reggie Wayne still put up numbers without Manning and Warner.

Can you blame Bowe for wanting out of this shit hole?

Matt Cassel and Tyson Jackson are the two most overrated players on the damn team and they each get $60+ million contracts while Bowe works his ass off, puts up good numbers, stays out of trouble and is a team player but yet he doesn't deserve to get paid?

That's like putting in 5 years of great production at your job and watching 2nd year lazy employee's get the raise and bonus over you.

I'd tell fat Scott to go **** himself too if I were Bowe.

And Decker was on pace for 1,000 yards and 16 TD's before Tebow came in last year. I will admit that Bowe is better than Decker but Decker isn't some scrub.

Why is this thread still going? Wasn't the rumor debunked.

Doubt it's a rumor. This is the 2nd time Bowe's name has been thrown into trade circles. People even reporting he does want out of here.

May not happen midseason, but Bowe wants to be traded.

Oh, I have no doubt he wants out. I just recall the rumor itself being dispelled.

Considering he wants out, I'm all for making sure we at LEAST get SOMETHING for him.

But I also agree with everyone that if Pioli wasn't being an ass he would already be signed.

:facepalm:

Did I mention these guys? These are future HoFers.

Dumbshit.

I'm just saying, if you are getting a lot of targets you are going to put up numbers. Bowe wouldn't all of the sudden have 1,500 yards and 15 TD's just because he had a good QB throwing him the ball, he would put up 1,000 yards and 8-10 TD's.

Wow, there is a lot of fail in that post :facepalm:

He put up 15 TDs 2 yrs ago.

Don't rule out that if pioli is fired, he could wAnt back in.

EXACTLY! If Pioli is canned, and replaced with a decent coaching staff as well as a REAL QB to throw to him, he would stay, and I think even bring his demands down some. He wants traded or Megatron money, because Pioli is calling the shots and won't give it to him. Firing Pioli fixes SO MANY PROBLEMS!

This wouldn't have happened if Haley was still here.

You are a dumbass....Wow

Manning is making that turd Delirium Tremens look decent.

what about midgets?

Yeah, well if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.

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Steelers here....