We're talking about a murderer. Belcher is not a victim. He should not be memorialized in any way. They should have a moment of silence only for those he hurt, and then try to forget about him. If Romeo cant coach tomorrow (understandable), let the assistants handle it.

1000000x this.

This game should not be played under no conditions tomorrow.

Even if it's true, it has ZERO to do with Belcher offing himself.

Nobody ever asked you to get banned when you do this shit during the season.

At a time like THIS, you're getting on your unstable soap box and preaching to us. If you're serious, then you're ****ing reeruned. If you're trolling, then you deserve to be banned for a year.

Which one is it, bitch?

Not confirmed, but likely. Also Perkins wasn't DOA. I don't know her status at this time though.

Oh settle down, I was taking a shot at ESPN and how they will completely blow this thing out of the water now that they have there hands on it.

I apologize if it came off differently

Dexter McCluster ‏@dextermccluster
Times like this you have to pray!!! I love you man, brothers for life!!!! #chiefs

Why is it that we assume the worst out of people? Why can't we just for once-ONCE- assume that people actually try to do good rather than bad?

It was Belcher's mother. From the Star:

this incident was at the facility 24 hours before the game

correct. see my post about should/could.

Unconfirmed, but from medical staffing treating.

Source?

Edit: NVM

Again, what about the players? Belcher had to have had close friends on the team. What about them?

didn't say it did.

Jerheme Urban ‏@JerhemeUrban83
My heart is hurting for everyone in #ChiefsNation. My former teammates, coaches, fans, and especially the family. Praying for all of you!

luv's got it right. No need to attack each other in this.

I disagree. If Belcher had instead been arrested and charged with murder, the game would obviously be played.

Maybe Romeo wont be able to work tomorrow, and thats fine, but why should we cancel a game because a murderer decided to off himself?

You did a pretty good job shitting all over this thread, too.

Where did I say Belcher should be memorialized? And no, they shouldn't forget about him. How about try to identify what went wrong so maybe something like this can be avoided in the future?

I still feel that if this were Brady or Manning the NFL's reaction would be different.

There are a great many uncared children whose parents are Chief's fans. Are the Hunts obligated to them as well?

I would hope no one on here wished death on any player, even in jest. I mean, we're a pretty stupid fan base, but I would hope we aren't that stupid.

That was my first thought as to why.

Right, I agree that's why I said maybe. But it wouldn't surprise me if he had some kind of underlying issue.

the nfl does need to cancel tomorrow's game and make sure that every player, coach and facility worker gets as much time with a grief counselor and therapists as they need. because i cannot fathom being in pioli's or RAC's shoes right now

Probably because of how and where it occurred, as well as the company of people who were present.

There have been other tragedies, but I can't think of one like this that occurred at the actual facility, outside of Katrina people dying in the Super Dome of course. Sure to be an eery tailgate if they play this thing.

Yikes. Someone might want to tell the players this is a bad time to state their love for Belcher.

Le'Ron McClain ‏@LeRon_McClain33
Man Stop and say a prayer for the KC Chiefs family... Sad day #sweater

Well no ****ing shit if this were Brady or Manning it would be different lol lol lol

In front of the coach, too. If there were ever a time to cancel a game, this would be it. Do the right thing, Roger... how can he expect the players and coaches to take the field so soon after a tragedy like this?

Wow there are some true colors shining through in this thread. Some of you are not acting rationally and are jumping to judgment.

Denise go back to stalking Gannon. You are one of the biggest pieces of shit I have seen on this place ever.
Nobody here likes you or respects you, and no one ever will. Why don't you save everyone the trouble of putting you on ignore and just leave. Don't go away mad just go away.

After this.....I don't think Romeo will be here another season. He's getting up there in age and this may have been the final straw. Shit like this takes a lot out of a person.

I heard on the radio that some assistants witnessed Belcher shoot himself. They may also be mesed up for awhile.

We were decorating the Christmas tree with the grandkids, didn't even know this happened until one of my sons called to tell us.

There have been numerous who wished it on Cassel during game threads, i have proof.

Disagree.

Why?

Sorry, I cannot confirm. It is merely the conversation of two people who are medically trained and working a facility for Perkins.

quit using a straw man. i mis spoke. they are under no obligation asshole

The humanity is too much for me to bear, right now. The complexity. The tragic humanity of it...

Because he murdered someone.

Sorry, did I insult your girlfriend?

How? Not giving sympathy to a murderer?

The Panthers have been told to fly out as scheduled.

Like others have said, can't imagine what kind of mental state he must have been in, and with your mother right there.... :(

Newborn will likely not have to grow up in a derranged family and with a psychotic dad. Id say the newborn is the least affected assuming he/she goes to a good home. This was obviously a dysfunctional relationship. If the kid was older it would be ALOT different though

Yup, in most cases, coaches spend so much time around players that they are more their family than their own. I can't even imagine what it would be like for coaches who not only have to grieve about it, but have the trauma of seeing it happened. It's heartbreaking to even imagine anyone having to go through that.

we still don't know the details have respect

They are people. He was a loved one. It's an unimaginable situation.

The players get a pass on their reactions, IMO.

A lot of dumb mother****ers in this thread

Well, aren't you just a precious little Sherlock Holmes

Rein yourself in, Sparky. No reason to get rude. I was just explaining why your reasoning is flawed.

I think people sometimes do rash things when they are in a poor mental state. Perhaps that was the deal with Belcher. Maybe someday we get the whole story of what was going through his head. Anyway, this vid doesn't make me think of JB as a bad person. Just the opposite, actually.

I don't know whether some people will hate this, but I'm gonna post it anyway.

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Calm down. I never even directed the blame for the miscommunication on you; it's evident that I didn't word things sensitively enough given the emotional state of most people in this thread, myself included.

I've been a strong supporter of the SOC movement since its inception (and I still am), and I've promoted it among all of my friends and coworkers (and I still will). I've said more than once that SOC isn't to blame for this event, and this will be the last time I repeat it. I have no interest in stifling the movement as a result of this incident.

I was speculating on the circumstances and motivations of the shooting, and then reflecting on how it made me feel. If it doesn't change your feelings or attitudes towards the team, then great. It did for me. You can either accept that and move on, or continue to insult my intelligence and character; I don't care which. I've taken the opportunity to repeat my thoughts in what is hopefully a clear and moderate fashion, and it will be the last I have to say on the matter.

Is what happened in dispute?

Apparently the NFL is telling the Panther players to travel to KC as normal

How would you be able to pull both of them aside is that something that's normal at practices?

I don't know how I could handle it if I saw someone kill themselves in front of me. I would take it personal.

Some of them weren't there.

They just woke up and heard that their teammate was dead...

Sure be nice for people to wait for all the facts before they run on with a bunch of emotionally laced diatribes.

He's also a human being who lost his life. If my friend lost his life, it would shake me the hell up, no matter what he or she may have done. I think it's ridiculous to suggest that a friend and teammate shouldn't be allowed to grieve for Belcher.

by using my incorrect words rather than my idea.


would the hunts adopting the child not be a humanitarian act? also provide the best resouces for the child to succeed?

Damn. :(

I just skimmed the thread and I'm in shock by this. What would possess Belcher to do it?

My heart goes out to the ones affected. Especially those that witnessed the event.

just let it go

damn. that will be very ****ed up if they have to play. as a fan I've kind of struggled with the players giving up so much of their health for the game. it's so violent, but i still watch. i know that players suffer from a whole host of problems after retirement, but i still watch. but if after something like this, if they still have to play then I don't know. I don't know if I can still be an nfl fan if that happens. it's just too much to ask of the players and the coaches.

Romeo and company will never be the same again after witnessing this.

If someone offed themselves at your workplace in front of a bunch of people would your work still make you come to work the next day?

Because we don't like murderers?

this is horrible. rip belch...I pray for your family and your child

did that denver bronco kill himself during the season? i cannot remember

maybe they just happened to be the ones already there.

Maybe he called them on his cell phone


we just don't know

Yeah man but you're assuming the kid doesn't already have remaining family members that love it and want to raise it and take care of it.

very possible

Typical Goodell. Money over everything. :rolleyes:

But if it was your kid you would want to the reasoning first before you label him/her as a murderer. If you're son wasn't sane at the time would you forgive him? Would go around and call him a murderer? He's not our kid so it makes so much easier for you to call him a murderer. Do know how his brain was functioning at the time?

:thumb::thumb:

Just stop

The abyss is sure staring back in this thread.

This season just keeps getting worse. This is awful, won't get into the selfishness of this act
so sad.

I'm just saying, for now, I'd stay off twitter for anything other than prayers for the family.

Yes, and yes. If we are assuming that money is the sole reason for raising a child.

Unfortunately, it is only a single minor facet in the development of a human being.

Sad. Prayers for the little one.