Trent Green could throw the ball down the field and showed that in St. Louis before KC.

There is no comparison. None. ZILCH.

there is certainly a comparison

but we can just find out when the games start in a few months

my track record on QB's >>>>> your track record

and again, I didn't want Alex Smith. I wanted my own QB. Not a retread. But I'm not going to be unrealistic and call Alex Smith Matt Cassel because that is nonsense.

Would love to have Trent Green on this team right about now

How is there a comparison.

Green forced the ball too much if anything.

He's the exact opposite of Alex Smith.

Amen brother!

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He's too old now. Maybe as OC and/or GM???

The younger Trent ;)

I think Trent was so underrated. Now he did have a HOF Oline i get that. But he had shit to throw to outside of Gonzalez. Kennison was ok. I bet Charles would have 2500 yds this season if we had the '03 line

I sure hope the Alex Smith nutlickers don't vanish after he fails epically, much like the Matt Cassel fan club did.

$11 says that anyone who owned a Cassel jersey, will soon own an A. Smith jersey.

I would have bought a Geno Smith jersey the day he was drafted.

I wouldn't waste my money on an Alex Smith. I'd rather have a Charles or just update my Reebok Berry to a Nike Berry.

What size do you wear? I have a Berry Nike XL that is too big. Has the STH logo on it as well.

What about Tyson Jackson?

I imagine I'd wear a L because I don't like jerseys that are too big

I don't like feeling like I'm wearing a dress

That's not the word on the street.

In 2004, Trent Green threw 60 passes over 21 yards in the air. 227 passes that traveled in the air 11 or more yards.

In Alex Smiths best year (2011) he only threw 36 passes over 21 yards in the air. 117 passes over 11 yards in the air.

Basically, Trent owns Alex Smith in every way.

How much do you want for it?

Home or away colors? Pm me...

The Coryell offense has ALWAYS been about throwing the ball downfield, whether it was Dan Fouts or Kurt Warner or Trent Green, etc. and so on.

The WCO envisioned by Bill Walsh is about short and intermediate passing and getting the ball into the hands of the receivers, who in turn make the plays.

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Shocking new information.

It's a false argument that Alex Smith is a better short passer than Matt Cassel.

So Alex is 1 percent better, but that 1 percent is less productive in terms of yards and touchdowns.

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Go to Hell; the Smith vs Cassel thread must become a reality. I can see it now; GLORIOUS GIFS showing Alex doing the same ****ing things Casshole used to do:
One read only,
Staring down receivers,
Missing wide-open targets,
Hitting the upright,
And the best of all:
TANDEM FETAL FTW!
Do it.
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Refresher!

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Was wondering where the hell this thread went...

Good call Clay. Took one game, and that's your sole opinion of Alex Smith. Well done. One bad game. Yup. Well, I guess you should make some gifs of Matt Ryan against the Falcons last year when he threw 5 picks. No great qbs ever have bad games.

Shut the **** up, moron. You're going to be gone from this place for a year when Alex Smith fails, and I will relish your defeat. And his.

Oh, tell me something we didn't already know. Pffff, the one thing that has been clear from the moment I got here. You are not a fan. You are a troll, and nothing more but a bitter little bitch who spreads his diarrhea of the mouth all over the board begging for attention. Which, I am glad to give it to you. And this is why. Everytime you spread your bullshit, I come right behind you, and leave the truth. So you can drop your little turdlings all over the board, and when you tell bullshit lies, ill just tell the truth, and move along. Still waiting on that gif of the Alex Smith to Moss 55 yard completion. I know you wont post it you sack less wonder bitch. Because that would DEFEAT YOUR ENTIRE PREMISE ABOUT ALEX.

The fact that Alex Smith had the sunshine hit one of his dog's ass passes one day does not mean he has any ability to throw downfield.

Again, the only guy who completes fewer throws down the field is Christian Ponder.

Go watch the video. Then talk to me. You wont. You are a coward....

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Highlights are irrelevant. Over the course of his career, Alex Smith cannot throw the ball down the field. It is fact.

You are an evil perverter of innocent little Chiefs fans. You give them false hope. And you will be destroyed.

You say highlights are irrelevant after you use highlights from his worst game to try to paint a picture?

Seriously?

Almost every single throw that is made in that video, is from the past 3 seasons. They are no more relevant, or irrelevant, as your bullshit gifs taken from ONE game. ONE GAME. but, a compelation of throws that YOU CLEARLY SAID HE CANT MAKE, clearly is far less relevant than an entire video showing that he can indeed make all the throws. lol.....

FWIW, Matt Cassel once completed iirc a 65 yard Td to Moss as well.

I have painted a picture using statistics accumulated over a LONG period of time from this turd QB.

The GIFs are merely examples of why he is limited, and why his statistics are so disappointing.

While agree with the premise of your argument, I also think that it would be possible to find throws that were underwhelming in more games but it would require quite a bit of time to do so.

Well, that is actually true. But, can we find a qb that doesn't make a horrible throw now and then?

I can recall Aaron Rodgers missing a wide open Greg Jennings in the playoff game loss to the Giants. Bad throws happen. Alex has thrown more than his fair share. But, to complete 70 percent of your passes, you have to complete quite a few as well.

WHAT?

The prosecution presents exhibit A.

http://i.imgur.com/DklISxD.jpg

Your client is GUILTY of defrauding the Kansas City Chiefs out of two second-round draft picks and giving false hope to a starving, ignorant fan base.

The sentence is lifetime incarceration in a federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison. The same one we sent Bono to.

when you learn how to read, and COMPREHEND, that I clearly said PLAYOFF game, and it was clearly in 2011, because the giants weren't IN the playoffs last year, then we can talk okay pumpkin? Clearly you are on overload today.

Doesn't matter. You insinuated that because Aaron Rodgers missed a deep pass, it was OK for Alex Smith to do so.

Faulty reasoning. Aaron Rodgers is an elite deep passer. Alex Smith is the EXACT opposite.

Once again, you have been proven completely and utterly wrong.

You will be destroyed.

Most certainly. However, you probably won't find any of the top tier guys doing that with the same frequency. Of course, that requires you to compare Alex with the top tier(Brady, manning, brees, rogers) which is silly.

I don't recall saying it was a DEEP pass, that's what made it all the more shocking. It was a relative easy pass for him, and he missed Jennings by 5 yards, by him self, in the end zone. It wasn't a point to illustrate that Aaron Rodgers is a bad qb, obviously hes one of the top 3 in the league. It was to illustrate that EVERY qb makes bad passes. I saw peyton manning throw 3 passes against Atlanta last season, and all three were picks.......

That is what makes them the top tier. Clearly which Alex Smith is not.

I understand what you mean. Completely.

AS hate-gifs are my FAVORITE item for this upcoming season. Can't.......wait.

It's here! The first GIF of Alex Smith being shitty as Chiefs QB! Brandon Flowers breaks up a poor/late pass from Alex.

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Isn't there a % of bad pass statistic? I bet Alex wouldn't look bad on it.

What a wobble-rocket. Begun, this Suck War has.

he doesn't take chances, blah blah blah. you know how that crap will go.

They did a break down of passes that qbs threw, and alex was top5 in 2 of them, and didn't throw enough to rate in the one behind the line of scrimmage, yet, alex throws short every time....lol.

2011:

Here is how he stacks up against the top 31 passers from last season:

1. Drew Brees (61 bad passes/657 attempts) 9.3 percent
2. Tony Romo (68/522) 12.3 percent
3. Philip Rivers (74/582) 12.7 percent
4. Colt McCoy (61/463) 13.2 percent
5. Josh Freeman (74/551) 13.4 percent
6. Kyle Orton (34/252) 13.5 percent
7. Kevin Kolb (35/253) 13.8 percent
7. Eli Manning (81/589) 13.8 percent
9. Aaron Rodgers (70/502) 13.9 percent
10. Matt Ryan (80/566) 14.1 percent
11. Alex Smith (64/445) 14.4 percent
12. Matthew Stafford (97/663) 14.6 percent
12. Ben Roethlisberger (75/513) 14.6 percent
14. Matt Hasselbeck (76/518) 14.7 percent
14. Tarvaris Jackson (66/450) 14.7 percent
16. Andy Dalton (78/516) 15.1 percent
17. Mike Vick (65/423) 15.4 percent
18. Rex Grossman (72/458) 15.7 percent
19. Matt Moore (55/347) 15.9 percent
20. Matt Schaub (47/292) 16.1 percent
21. Tom Brady (107/611) 17.5 percent
21. Jay Cutler (55/314) 17.5 percent
22. Ryan Fitzpatrick (101/569) 17.8 percent
23. Mark Sanchez (97/543) 17.9 percent
23. Christian Ponder (52/291) 17.9 percent
25. Joe Flacco (100/542) 18.5 percent
26. Cam Newton (101/517) 19.5 percent
27. Sam Bradford (70/357) 19.6 percent
28. John Skelton (62/275) 22.5 percent
29. Blaine Gabbert (94/413) 22.8 percent
30. Tim Tebow (71/271) 26.2 percent
31. Carson Palmer (101/328) 30.8 percent

Shows how much you actually know about football.

If a receiver gets his hands on the ball, it's on him if he doesn't catch.

Hmmm...that was kind of an ugly pass. The mechanics are very wind up-ish too...thought he got that fixed...

...but Brandon Flowers is awesome, so there is that as well...

You have never thrown a regulation nfl ball have you? Those things are hard to get a spiral on. Also, to Clay, that wasn't late, that was Baldwin, not shielding off a defender, and letting a much smaller defender over his back.

Oh, also, it was ****ING OTAS YOU DOPE.

Any list where Kyle Orton, Kevin Kolb, and Tony Romo rank highly on is not a list that one can make any kind of assumption that a QB is going to be successful and is a winner.

Colt McCoy?

I can't take anything from this worthless list.

Ladies and Gentlemen; your prime, A-1 excuse for Alexsexuality this upcoming season.

Yeah, GREAT throw for no pads and no pressure. I'm psyched!LMAO

Alex Smith threw 135 passes under 10 yards last season. (73.8 percent of his attempts).

Matt Cassel threw 126 passes under 10 yards last season (64.9 percent of his attempts).

Don't try to deceive us with your sorcerer's ways, Lord Maverick.

Alex Smith checks the ball down more than Matt Cassel. It is fact.

I'm sorry; WHO is getting paid to throw the regulation football again? Did, Does, and Always Will. Just accept it.

You know. That's a good point. I live in Packer country. Any time there is a drop, they blame the Wr's. No matter how tough the catch would of been. ON the 49ers board last year, every drop, was something Alex Smith did, even if the pass was placed well.

That is to be expected though.

Well here's an interesting stat for 2012....

Adjusted air yards per attemt (adjusted for sack yards and ints) Alex ranks 11th. Cassell ranks 35th.

Lol, you'd expect an NFL QB to be throwing lasers out there, especially in practice with no heat. Had Houston, who was pictured, been on his ass I might expect a little wobble. But that wobble puts a ball off target and reduces velocity and in a game that is a pick.

In what world do you live in? If a receiver gets his hands on the ball and doesn't catch it, that's on the receiver, not the QB.

Good God, you're ****ing reeruned.

Looks like a straight pass breakup by the DB to me.

Late pass, Alex. No good.

And what did Tom Brady, and Aaron Rodgers throw?

Also, when referring to the throws that you love to call check downs, how about all the throws that are behind the lines of scrimmage. Of course Alex is going to throw a lot of 0-9 yard routes, he also threw a lot of 10-19 yard routes, most throws in the NFL are from 1-19 yards. That is the majority of passes made. This is irrelevant......

I'd like to see the rest of the qbs broken down the same way. Thanks.


BTW, if Short passes = checking down, then Aaron Rogers is the double discount check down king.

No, it's very relevant.

We had a shitty QB who threw too many short passes and now we have one who throws even MORE short passes.

There is no way to spin this into a good thing.

So, blame the receivers. Got it.LMAO

espn.com

You're welcome.

Whats ironic is, the majority of Peyton Mannings passes, have severe "wobble" on them. Who gives a shit. The only players I have ever really known to have absolute tight spirals, are qbs with Cannons, like Brett Favre, matt Stafford. Their balls hardly ever wobble.....

If its catchable, its catchable period........

How soon will the o-line that we just pissed the farm away on start racking up blame for Axl's wobble-suck? Minutes? Quarters? Games? What's O/U?

The drop pass stat consists of passes that are 100% on the wr. If there was any % that could be put on the QB, they aren't counted against the wr.

Who is he supposed to throw deep to Clay? He being Cassel.

I have read many times on here that Moeaki is always hurt, and Baldwin sucks.

Who was he supposed to be throwing deep to?

Alex Smith, didn't really have a deep threat in San Francisco last year outside of Vernon Davis. Who was he supposed to throw deep to? Crabtree? Old ass randy moss? WHO?

To throw deep, you have to have someone to throw deep to.

I don't see a Desean Jackson, Steve Smith, Calvin Johnson on the Chiefs.....I see a very good Receiver in Dwayne Bowe, who is going to be given plenty of YAC chances. But, I don't see these deep threats apparently you do.

Alex Smith:

2012 San Francisco 49ers 10 218 153 70.2 21.8 1,737 8.0 173.7 13 6.0 5 2.3 55 22 4 24 137 104.1

Matt Cassel:

2012 Kansas City Chiefs 9 277 161 58.1 30.8 1,796 6.5 199.6 6 2.2 12 4.3 46 24 1 19 101 66.7

We all know Alex Smith's yards per attempt was a deceitful indicator of his ability, so don't go quoting that shit, please.

Dude was near the bottom of the league in yards per completion, because he doesn't throw the ball down the field.

That is the truth, please adhere to it.

NO it's called football.

Have you ever actually played.

That's HS ball bud.

Again. Who, was he supposed to be throwing deep to....Just please tell me.
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I really wanna know......

The same guys that Kaepernick was throwing to when he was #2 in the league in yards per completion.

Game, set, match.

Oh, I know how to do it, I just don't think it bodes well for your argument.

Aaron Rogers = 73.6% of passes are less than 10 yards.

Wait... Alex Smith now = Aaron Rogers according to Clay!!!


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Hey Dipshit, please name the coach that told you it was "Okay" to drop a pass that you had your hands on, either in practice or in a game.

You're ****ing stupid beyond words.

You know what is funny about Clay. Tom Brady, is elite. He throws 100 passes a year to Wes Welker with all of them being short, no one complains, well because that is Wes Welkers skill set. He is a possession after the catch receiver. Alex Smith does the same thing to Crabtree, because that really is where crabs is best, after the catch, and he sucks lol.

Although, alex smith has never had a problem finding Vernon Davis, ANYWHERE on the field......

You are lying, or bad at math. One of those.

Aaron Rodgers threw 68.4 percent of his passes under 10 yards.

He also threw 39 TD passes. When Alex Smith does that...call me.

But their yards per attempt, were identical.....

??? and as I have stated. Kaep, huge arm, but he has the exact opposite problem of alex smith. he cant throw short to save his life. Hes terrible at it.