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DJ's left nut 03-27-2017 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 12799799)
Jaleel Johnson will go in ght e 2nd round if I had to guess. Top of the 3rd at the latest.

Yeah, I think so too, if for no other reason than versatility.

He's big enough that you could try him at 0/1 and if he can't quite hold, he has just enough length to be a 5-tech and the explosion/athleticism to do it pretty well.

In a 4-3, he'd be a dynamite 3-tech, IMO. Though depending on your existing personnel, you could make him a 1 (you just waste him a bit there, IMO). So when you have a guy that can play multiple spots on the line in virtually any front, you're going to have a lot of teams that have him on their boards. Especially given the rise in sub-packages. Even 3-4 teams need a strong 4-down alignment. Hell, the Chiefs would be wise to look at him in the back of the 2nd, IMO. If Logan costs $8 million on a 'make good' deal, they'd better have a plan in place for the middle long-term.

Has some Chris Jones to him, IMO. Not as consistently powerful and not as long, but possibly more explosive. I think he goes in the top 60, but I've been way off on some of these picks in the past.

Hoover 03-27-2017 10:56 AM

I think he has a team like Atlanta written all over him. Pioli loves those Iowa boys!

chiefscafan 03-27-2017 11:19 AM

wow if the draft falls this way and Dorsey keeps the picks he could do some major damage in this draft.


This draft seems the most wide open I've ever seen. It could go anyway nothing seems set in stone except maybe the first twelve picks.


Thanks Clevesteve for helping me keep this going work was long last night.

chiefscafan 03-27-2017 12:13 PM

Wow better change Oakland to Vegas damn who would've thought it!

CleveSteve 03-27-2017 12:29 PM

Not until 2020.

chiefscafan 03-27-2017 12:41 PM

I bet they move sooner the backlash in Oakland is gonna be bad!

BossChief 03-27-2017 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12799687)
This is just a tough draft to navigate for the Broncos. There are some truly great picks left on the board right now but at positions of nominal need for the Broncos. Meanwhile, at positions where they truly need help, the draft was thin and by now it's pretty much barren.

But with their interior line aging and getting more expensive/less productive, the Broncos see a bit of a find here in a guy who doesn't appear to have gotten a ton of traction in many corners but still has athleticism and upside you don't often see in the middle.

The Donks select, Jaleel Johnson, NT - Iowa

There are better picks to be made here but they just aren't the right fit for the Broncos right now.

You know, I really wish you were picking AFTER KC in the draft.

Jaleel was gonna get KC a comp pick after letting Logan walk after 1 year in KC for good money and JJ was gonna be a solid piece of KCs defense.

Oh well. Good pick.

I've still got a nice list to choose from.

RealSNR 03-27-2017 01:16 PM

Suck on this fatty, Sfeihc.

Minnesota selects Ahkello Witherspoon, CB, Colorado

Sfeihc 03-27-2017 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12800036)
Suck on this fatty, Sfeihc.

Minnesota selects Ahkello Witherspoon, CB, Colorado

Well done. The Buffs were giving the Maize and Blue all they wanted in the Big House until the qb got hurt.

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RealSNR 03-27-2017 01:44 PM

By the way, Witherspoon just ****ing screams a Dorsey pick. I would not be surprised at all to see the Chiefs draft him in the real thing

staylor26 03-27-2017 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12800075)
By the way, Witherspoon just ****ing screams a Dorsey pick. I would not be surprised at all to see the Chiefs draft him in the real thing

Yup. I could definitely see us taking him with one of our 3rd rounders if he's still available. Kevin King too (though that would have to be in the 2nd).

RunKC 03-27-2017 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12800078)
Yup. I could definitely see us taking him with one of our 3rd rounders if he's still available. Kevin King too (though that would have to be in the 2nd).

Mr. King might be a first rd pick homie. He's sure getting the pub for it. I think early rd 2.

The Franchise 03-27-2017 02:11 PM

If we ended up trading down (and not drafting a QB)....I'd love to take King at the bottom of the 1st round.

Sfeihc 03-27-2017 02:13 PM

Dorsey really must be licking his chops in anticipation of this draft. With 10 picks and a deep roster, he can get the QBOTF and sprinkle talent where they deem fit.
After watching various levels of ineptitude for 30 plus years the last 4 have been a revelation.

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staylor26 03-27-2017 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12800100)
Mr. King might be a first rd pick homie. He's sure getting the pub for it. I think early rd 2.

That's definitely possible, but with all the talent at corner I still doubt that he goes the 1st.

DJ's left nut 03-27-2017 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12800120)
That's definitely possible, but with all the talent at corner I still doubt that he goes the 1st.

It's an unreal amount of CB talent.

I probably should've gone with Allen with my #2 overall because there's starting caliber CB talent still on the board (though I do think the Day 1 starters have finally largely dried up after 2 1/2 rounds).

The Chiefs definitely have no cause to go CB in the 1st round. There is a ton of them available.

RunKC 03-27-2017 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12800138)
It's an unreal amount of CB talent.

I probably should've gone with Allen with my #2 overall because there's starting caliber CB talent still on the board (though I do think the Day 1 starters have finally largely dried up after 2 1/2 rounds).

The Chiefs definitely have no cause to go CB in the 1st round. There is a ton of them available.

I agree. I think pass rusher would be a better option if the QB's are gone.

Sfeihc 03-27-2017 03:04 PM

I can feel the condescension building in this thread.

Direckshun 03-27-2017 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sfeihc (Post 12800178)
I can feel the condescension building in this thread.

You would.

Direckshun 03-27-2017 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CleveSteve (Post 12799637)
With the 83rd pick in the 2017 CP Mock Draft,

The Tennessee Titans select Tanoh Kpassagnon, Defensive End, Villanova

I'm assuming, CleveSteve, you became familiar with this guy after watching the Combine, right?

This guy looks like a Greek god. He's a massive project, but good lord does he have every physical tool you need. He is ridiculous.

Edit: Actually this was a pick by chiefscafan. Still, anybody who wants to weigh in on this fascinating prospect, go for it.

staylor26 03-27-2017 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 12800195)
I'm assuming, CleveSteve, you became familiar with this guy after watching the Combine, right?

This guy looks like a Greek god. He's a massive project, but good lord does he have every physical tool you need. He is ridiculous.

Edit: Actually this was a pick by chiefscafan. Still, anybody who wants to weigh in on this fascinating prospect, go for it.

I was going to take him with my Raiders pick. He's raw, but he has some serious upside.

CleveSteve 03-27-2017 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 12800195)
I'm assuming, CleveSteve, you became familiar with this guy after watching the Combine, right?

This guy looks like a Greek god. He's a massive project, but good lord does he have every physical tool you need. He is ridiculous.

Edit: Actually this was a pick by chiefscafan. Still, anybody who wants to weigh in on this fascinating prospect, go for it.

I first looked into him when he was invited to the senior Bowl. Lot of buzz around him at the time, partially because he is so mammoth, but he's not really on my list. Wasn't crazy about him. Not saying he'll be bad, but I'm of the opinion that it's much more important that you are right about the players that you do draft than it is the ones you don't, so if you're not sold, stay away.

BossChief 03-27-2017 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12800036)
Suck on this fatty, Sfeihc.

Minnesota selects Ahkello Witherspoon, CB, Colorado

Jerks

First DJ and now you, too?

Fansy the Famous Bard 03-27-2017 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12800354)
Jerks

First DJ and now you, too?

Don't screw the rest of this draft up, Boss.... or we'll dust off the banner.

chiefscafan 03-27-2017 04:46 PM

How bout this for intriguing I did a mock draft where all four QBs were gone and fournette was there what do you guys think bout him.

chiefscafan 03-27-2017 04:47 PM

He would've never made it to u Boss I would've drafted him with Titans.

BossChief 03-27-2017 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12800138)
It's an unreal amount of CB talent.

I probably should've gone with Allen with my #2 overall because there's starting caliber CB talent still on the board (though I do think the Day 1 starters have finally largely dried up after 2 1/2 rounds).

The Chiefs definitely have no cause to go CB in the 1st round. There is a ton of them available.

That's why I went with Tim Williams.

I saw him as equal in talent to a handful of other defenders, but I saw him as the last "super high upside" type rushbacker where I could count more than 3 CBs that I really liked. Plus, anytime you can draft what's arguably the best pass or second best pass rusher in college football as well as arguably the QB with the highest upside...you aren't screwing things up too terribly.

I'm trying to keep the big picture in mind and maximize the value of each pick.

BossChief 03-27-2017 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fahrenheit (Post 12800358)
Don't screw the rest of this draft up, Boss.... or we'll dust off the banner.

I'm far from done here.

Trust me.

Sfeihc 03-27-2017 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12800382)
I'm far from done here.

Trust me.

Seems like in a draft with a great deal of safe talent you have a couple picks with some rather big questions.


Also, the condescension in here has reached epic purportions.

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staylor26 03-27-2017 07:12 PM

Where the **** is that condescending prick?

BossChief 03-27-2017 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sfeihc (Post 12800501)
Seems like in a draft with a great deal of safe talent you have a couple picks with some rather big questions.


Also, the condescension in here has reached epic purportions.

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I've always been a bit of a gambler.

CleveSteve 03-27-2017 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12800524)
Where the **** is that condescending prick?



Dunno but he was on 30 minutes after the last pick.

Sfeihc 03-27-2017 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12800548)
I've always been a bit of a gambler.

They both have talent you can't coach. Reid and his staff would really be earning their money if both turn out to be studs.

There is so much condescension that condensation has formed on all the windows in the Lounge.

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O.city 03-27-2017 07:51 PM

Sorry guys, been out for a while.

The Giants need some upside in the front 7.

The New York Giants select Jarron Jones DT Notre Dame

I really would have liked to upgrade my OTS but not much value here for my liking.

CleveSteve 03-27-2017 07:56 PM

NFL.com says that's a great pick.

staylor26 03-27-2017 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12800573)
Sorry guys, been out for a while.

The Giants need some upside in the front 7.

The New York Giants select Jarron Jones DT Notre Dame

I really would have liked to upgrade my OTS but not much value here for my liking.

Good pick. Another guy on my list for this Raiders pick.

The Oakland Raiders select Justin Evans, S, Texas A&M

Evans is easily the BPA on my board, and Reggie Nelson will be 34 next season. Nate Allen also left, so they need depth too. Evans and Joseph could give the Raiders one of the NFL's best safety tandems in a couple years.

Getting great value with Evans and Mixon makes me feel a lot better about my Brantley pick. Easily my least favorite pick so far, but Oakland's awful interior DL and a weak draft class for it gave me no choice but to reach a little.

CleveSteve 03-27-2017 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12800573)
Sorry guys, been out for a while.

The Giants need some upside in the front 7.

The New York Giants select Jarron Jones DT Notre Dame

I really would have liked to upgrade my OTS but not much value here for my liking.

Wow either Miami has a total dog shit OL or you just drafted ndamukong suh

Sfeihc 03-28-2017 05:50 AM

Okay, so about us being on a good pace......

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ChiefAshhole1056 03-28-2017 07:18 AM

The Houston Texans select Carlos Watkins, DL, Clemson.

Hoover 03-28-2017 07:51 AM

this has really sloooooooowed down.

kccrow 03-28-2017 07:52 AM

The Seattle Seahawks select Tyus Bowser, OLB, Houston

CleveSteve 03-28-2017 07:55 AM

Hey, crow is getting us back on track!

O.city 03-28-2017 07:57 AM

Who slowed it down?





:)

RealSNR 03-28-2017 08:30 AM

Chiefs on the clock! It's happening gif!

The Franchise 03-28-2017 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 12800915)
this has really sloooooooowed down.

We still have almost a month and only 4 rounds left. We'll be ok.

TambaBerry 03-28-2017 09:05 AM

Wasn't it mid April you got done last year? With a few of us getting banned from the forum

The Franchise 03-28-2017 09:10 AM

We started on 3/16 last year and ended on 4/14.

BossChief 03-28-2017 09:26 AM

This is an extremely tough decision.

I have the pick rounded down to 5 players and am trying to decide which way to go with the pick.

I'll have the pick in soon...

CleveSteve 03-28-2017 09:35 AM

Please take the guy I should take but don't want to

Hoover 03-28-2017 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12800991)
This is an extremely tough decision.

I have the pick rounded down to 5 players and am trying to decide which way to go with the pick.

I'll have the pick in soon...

Don't fu@k up!

DJ's left nut 03-28-2017 09:44 AM

Personally I see an easy one here, but I shall keep it to myself...

staylor26 03-28-2017 10:12 AM

There's a particular WR on the board that would be a fantastic addition to go with Mahomes.

A couple different RB's I would also be really happy with.

DJ's left nut 03-28-2017 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12801021)
There's a particular WR on the board that would be a fantastic addition to go with Mahomes.

A couple different RB's I would also be really happy with.

I'm actually expecting him to show up with the cure for cancer at this point.

Anything less than that will be a disappointment.

The Franchise 03-28-2017 10:17 AM

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RunKC 03-28-2017 10:20 AM

Tyus Bowser picked right before us. Mother**** you, Crow :shake:

The Franchise 03-28-2017 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12801032)
Tyus Bowser picked right before us. Mother**** you, Crow :shake:

We weren't picking him after Williams in the 2nd anyways. Although I'd rather have gone CB in the 2nd and Bowser in the 3rd if he fell to us.

Hoover 03-28-2017 10:26 AM

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DJ's left nut 03-28-2017 10:28 AM

Having visited Lexington during football season and seen what monumental ****sticks those fans are, nothing could make me happier than their tears.

We will never go back. UK is a shithole.

DJ's left nut 03-28-2017 10:48 AM

I went looking for a "John McLaughling Wrong" gif so I could post it when Bosschief inevitably makes the wrong choice here.

However, in the process I stumbled upon this and I think I fell into a time vortex just staring at it for the last 30 minutes.

https://images.gr-assets.com/hostedi...a/19955033.gif

Oh Rachel McAdams. I don't know what it is, but I would absolutely walk through fire for you.

BossChief 03-28-2017 10:56 AM

OK. Not everyone is gonna be a fan of this pick, but that's ok. Especially after recent signings and depth at the position...but this guy has fallen to the end of the third round and he's an early second round talent that has the ability to change games.

In the third round of the 2017 NFL draft, The Kansas City Chiefs select Marcus Williams, S, Utah

10ints and 3 forced fumbles in the last 2 seasons, high intensity player. Universally loved in the scouting community. Leader. Tone setter. Versatile.

This rounds out a superb safety group of 5 guys and gives KC an awesome option if they should lose a guy to injury and also gives them a really good player to plug in once Parker slows down (turns 30 before the season).

Somewhere, sac is smiling...

chiefscafan 03-28-2017 10:57 AM

a safety?

CleveSteve 03-28-2017 10:59 AM

Welp. He would have been my pick for Carolina had he somehow lasted that long. One of the top two center fielders in the draft IMO. Never should have seen the third round, let alone the end of it.

DJ's left nut 03-28-2017 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12801070)
In the third round of the 2017 NFL draft, The Kansas City Chiefs select Marcus Williams, S, Utah


https://media.giphy.com/media/GCLlQnV7wzKLu/giphy.gif

Anybody that is not a fan of this pick is incorrect.

He's a little thin and probably not ready to see the field much this year, but that's fine. He'll get a year to put some weight on, get used to the speed of the game and or scheme and he'll hit the ground flying as our new single-high in 2018.

Put, I dunno, 15 lbs on him and he's everything you could ask for at FS for us.

The Franchise 03-28-2017 11:01 AM

I'm cool with it. Not a super huge fan of the Williams pick in the 2nd.....but I'm happy so far with the draft.

The Franchise 03-28-2017 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12801062)
I went looking for a "John McLaughling Wrong" gif so I could post it when Bosschief inevitably makes the wrong choice here.

However, in the process I stumbled upon this and I think I fell into a time vortex just staring at it for the last 30 minutes.

https://images.gr-assets.com/hostedi...a/19955033.gif

Oh Rachel McAdams. I don't know what it is, but I would absolutely walk through fire for you.

Watched Dr. Strange the other day and totally didn't even realize that she was in the movie until she popped up on screen. Still looking good.

BossChief 03-28-2017 11:03 AM

Plus, this gives KC the versatility to play Eric Murray at either safety or corner.

It's too bad KC can't just delete that extension they gave to Sorenson...

DJ's left nut 03-28-2017 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 12801071)
a safety?

You fired up to give a 31 year old Ron Parker $6 million next season? I like Parker and think he's earned every dollar of his deal, but you have to have a contingency in place for him and single-high isn't an easy spot to fill. It was going to take a serious draft pick, a lot of money or a change in scheme to deal with Parker's age/salary as early as next season.

With this kind of value on the board, it was a perfect time/place to handle it.

BossChief 03-28-2017 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12801074)
https://media.giphy.com/media/GCLlQnV7wzKLu/giphy.gif

Anybody that is not a fan of this pick is incorrect.

He's a little thin and probably not ready to see the field much this year, but that's fine. He'll get a year to put some weight on, get used to the speed of the game and or scheme and he'll hit the ground flying as our new single-high in 2018.

Put, I dunno, 15 lbs on him and he's everything you could ask for at FS for us.

That's kinda what I was thinking.

Maybe move Berry back closer to the LOS after 2017 and let Williams take over at single high.

BossChief 03-28-2017 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12801076)
I'm cool with it. Not a super huge fan of the Williams pick in the 2nd.....but I'm happy so far with the draft.

Everybody has different views on Williams, but IMO if he can stay clean off the field he has a real chance to be a James Harrison type player.

His game against LSU sold me on him. It's really the only game where he was able to play all 3 downs and was impressive.

The guy got stupid good pass rush productivity while playing far less than the other edge guys. He very well might be the best pass rusher in this class.

CleveSteve 03-28-2017 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12801081)
That's kinda what I was thinking.

Maybe move Berry back closer to the LOS after 2017 and let Williams take over at single high.

This is the only thing he should be doing. He is not a good tackler, but that's OK. He is a very good center fielder and that is a special skill set.

Sfeihc 03-28-2017 11:16 AM

Heck of a can on McAdams.

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RunKC 03-28-2017 11:17 AM

I would have taken Tyus Bowser in rd 2 (He's one of my favorite prospects) but I won't bitch.

I would jizz everywhere if this draft happened. Well done Boss

staylor26 03-28-2017 11:17 AM

You can definitely make the argument that Williams was BPA, and considering the Parker's age and contract situation, you can certainly justify going S there. Solid pick.

kccrow 03-28-2017 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12801032)
Tyus Bowser picked right before us. Mother**** you, Crow :shake:

lol... I was swearing about ahole picking Watkins one pick in front of me, so blame him. :)

RunKC 03-28-2017 11:24 AM

Drafting the kid makes for an interesting debate.

Parker
Berry
Dirty Dan
Murray

Where does he fit? Who do you cut? Do you only keep 4 safeties and have Murray take a spot at CB?

BossChief 03-28-2017 11:33 AM

KC is in nickel 60-65% of the time and Sutton loves using 3 safeties. Keeping 5 safeties is smart IMO...plus Murray can split time at corner and safety.

When it's all said and done, KC should continue to draft the best players they possibly can and then let Reid and his staff shuffle them around wherever he thinks helps the team the best.

The Franchise 03-28-2017 11:33 AM

I think you keep 5 safeties and cut Parker next year.

Parker
Berry
Sorensen
Murray
Williams

BossChief 03-28-2017 11:38 AM

The pick also provides good insurance for when Parker hits the wall (IMO he's a player that depends on his speed to make plays and is coming up on 30, when lots of speed guys lose a step) or for the possibility that Erics cancer returns...or someone gets hurt.
Gotta love the kids talent and what he brings to the defense.

chiefscafan 03-28-2017 11:52 AM

Hey he's a great player I thought we are good at safety I would've gotten a WR really need to do something with O. The D can't keep caring this team forever.

chiefscafan 03-28-2017 11:53 AM

Love the Mahomes pick and Williams though


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